Men hating obsession Anonymous 41592
>tfw i can't stop thinking about how much I hate men
>tfw my internal monolouge consists only of the phrase "I hate men"
>tfw I can't read or think or concentrate on anything else but my hatred for men
what's wrong with me? why is my brain so fucked up? do I have OCD?
I know how you feel. I felt the same as you for the longest time, right down to constantly repeating how much I hated them.
I still can't say I really care for them because their whole kind is based around being violent and abusive but that's the point, society is set up to allow them to be that way. For some reason, men have been allowed to build themselves up as the leaders of the world and to consider women as little more than tools to be exploited, whether it be to give them the menial tasks of cleaning the house or relieving their sexual urges (voluntarily or not). It's hard to care about men when this is how they are.
It is my belief that, deep down, men are just the same as us though. They can feel compassion and do good because the heart that beats in their chest is a human one. It is this world, though, that has made otherwise-innocent men into feeling justified in treating women as inferiors which they have done for thousands of years. It's hard to remember that they are people too, even if they don't seem to act like it.
It's not men themselves, but the position of power they find themselves in, that many choose to blindly follow. Hopefully, one day, we can all respect one another.
I hope that all made sense, I'm still trying to figure all this out myself. I just know that pure hatred is not the answer, because that makes me no better than that whom I once despised.
It's good that you're aware that men are all terrible. The next step is actualizing ways to deal with the problem of the male deformity.
Maybe you have Autism/ADHD/OCD?
Stop going on Radfem forums and websites. That shit is not good for mental health
I kind of relate to this. It's good that you've had this realization. If you've just realized this then at first you're gonna be really angry but it will dull down after a while as you come to accept that this is the world we live in. Just realize that you shouldn't waste your whole life on thinking about how much you hate men. There's still a lot of things in the world for us to enjoy. In a way it's kind of cucked to allow them to have this much hold over your mind. If you're like me then you probably see a lot of things online about men that fuel your anger. Start by spending time away from your computer/phone and more time in nature or hanging out with a female friend or family member, which will help you realize that there's more to life than this, and only check back on those websites every once in a while to help remind you why you shouldn't trust men.
Hmmm I think it's more that the violence and antisocial impulsivity are on average innate to males, but culturally humans including men have evolved institutions that keep these instincts in check for the most part. There could not be a long-term human society that doesn't effectively manage its male aggression and deviancy, because these societies all collapse for the obvious reasons, and are hopeless in terms of progress and stability.
In our civilization, this management happens through stuff like law enforcement, socially enforced monogamy (or at least sane rules for relationships and sex) and power hierarchies where even the losers mostly have a place in society, and valuable and beneficial behaviour is rewarded with power and wealth (albeit imperfectly).
Men can as a statistical group be forgiven because they have put in a lot of effort to build these institutions. Most of them understand what the alternative is, and they don't ultimately want it, even if these urges are innate to them. It must be a conflicted existence for sure and it will keep causing damage to us and other men when these instincts can't completely be curbed and domesticated, but most men have chosen to at least on average act in a prosocial way.
How would that work?
It wouldn't be wise to eliminate them entirely.
Would you more or less just want to put them under the control of women?
This would just fuel her men hating obsession.
You're the moid that made the thread earlier. Aren't you?
To be blunt, no.
Though I don't even think that moid actually made the thread.
Until the mods confirm that the IPs were the same, he could have easily just been somebody who wanted the thread gone considering dynamic IPs are a thing.
I feel this. I really hate men. They are disgusting rape apes, coombrains, violent aggressive pissbabies with no impulse control, who expect to be worshipped just for existing and shoot up malls when they aren’t. They are hypergamous status seekers only capable of respecting women they are attracted to, and the only reason they don’t rape and murder women more frequently is because jailtime is a deterrent. I despise men. Honestly.
I’m not even a lesbian but I remember debating with this incel and he was trying to say how lesbian couples have the highest reported rate of emotional/physical abuse so somehow men = good, lesbians = evil.
The thing is, I wager about 99% of straight women have been abused in a relationship with a man - be it verbal, physical, emotional, psychological. Incels love to claim only Chads are abusive but we all know this is bullshit. In fact ugly loser types are often the most bitter and abusive of all men.
Sadly straight women are so conditioned to accept men’s violent, cruel, inconsiderate behavior that I don’t think straight women even REGISTER they are/have been abused by men. You think of how many men manipulate their gf into doing sexual acts, how many men neg their gfs and put them down by comparing them to other women or ‘jokingly teasing’ them about their appearance or intelligence, don’t support their gfs/wives and call them drama queens or over emotional for valid reactions, how many men talk down to their gfs/wives and don’t take anything about them seriously, how many men cheat on their wives/gfs, use porn to get back at or dreadgame them etc.
All these things count as abusive toxic behavior and yet so many women just view them as a normal or inevitable part of being in a relationship with a man. It’s terrifying, honestly. So much of women’s existence is trying to placate and soothe men’s stupid egos.
What thread are you talking about? I missed it.
Glad I wasn't raised in a ghetto
The one where the moid diverted a nice fantasy into "step on me mommy uwu" and ruined everything.
Shame too since the wholesome parts were honestly better than the lewd parts.
A lot more fun to thing of how to gain the trust of a tiny moid and what cute things he could do than to think of ways to use him as a sex toy.
>>41712>The thing is, I wager about 99% of straight women have been abused in a relationship with a man>Sadly straight women are so conditioned to accept men’s violent, cruel, inconsiderate behavior that I don’t think straight women even REGISTER they are/have been abused by men.
This is just simply unbelievable. Please read what you just posted and seriously contemplate it. This sheer insanity is matched only by incels, of which you are merely the female version. It is actually amazing you can't even see this.
Honestly though it is impossible to not sound condescending….. but get help, it isn't healthy to have these delusions so just get off the internet for a bit and go outside and actually experience life instead of reading shit on the webz.
now I'll wait for you to call me a moid because you dislike my post.
99% might be an exaggeration but you are either a cringe and bluepilled underage girl with no dating experience, or a scrote. Men are garbage and any woman who has ever dated one can attest to this.
"to use women as tools to exploit" is fairly accurate. I know so many men in person who fled when their woman got pregnant and she had to raise the offspring by herself. Add that to revenge porn and sites dedicated to recognizing women outside the internet. I regret wanting to be a tradmom and continuing the cycle
Reminder that murder is the biggest cause of death for pregnant women. Women are more likely to be murdered by their partner when pregnant.
I'm a scrote because I believe that not all women get abused?
lmao. stop being such a low-class femcel.
everyone is garbage, both men and women, grow up.
Fetishistic pics like that are what the moid was posting.
Delirious. Men are the majority of murderers and rapists. This is already a good reason to distrust men. What do women do? Although you're probably just a moid who thinks women are trash for not having sex with you and inflating your ego.
I was the one who posted the pics by this artist, the others were posted by somebody else.
Honestly it was hard to find pics that depicted this specific difference in size without making the woman a goddess of fertility, so that's why i thought it would be worthwhile to post them.
There are better ones, but they often fall under "gentle" giantess instead of macro, which is almost wholly femdom.
stay in tune for a double billing of 'everyone who disagrees with me is a moid'
hey, just TRY and live a healthy life, ok?
Yes but generally the gentle giantess women will bring you more large women then small men.
Though really it's just a matter of whether the world is scaled to the woman or scaled to the man.
>>41850>just trust this poisonous viper not to bite you bro
Lol nope. What has trusting a man ever brought a woman? You shouldn’t trust fucking anyone, much less a moid. Nice condescension too, faggit.
What do you propose as an alternative to trust then?
Just being alone?
That is an option, but then you would be alone.
That's the dilemma. It's either be tall and nice or he's small and being tortured to death. At least most of the giantess pics have clothes on them.>>41855
Hey, snakes are nice.
sounds like you haven't interacted with handsome or nice men
just ugly ones, go find the hot ones and nice ones :)
I don't hate every man but I really hate my dad. He is a paranoid, pathetic, strung out tool. For the life of me, I can not figure out what personality disorder he has. Narcissism is very high in his personality but at the same time he's just so pathetic?
If he's paranoid his personality disorder is being paranoid.
Plus there's also the problem of finding this exact size ratio, since most giantess pics have the man be handheld sized.
It's fine if that's what you like (though i doubt it is) but it doesn't really have the same effect as a ratio like pic related.
Again this just feels like a moid pic. Too much horny energy. Everyone has to look like they're on the verge of an orgasm or else it's not good enough for the artist.
Yeah that's the main problem with most size difference pics.
It's honestly why I like the one with the door so much since it doesn't imply anything sexual.
Just a woman coming home to a well trained moid.
Eh even that one has some weird lewdness to it. She's either really
shy around him, or anime drunk.
I very much doubt that any woman could be shy around a moid that she literally ran down and stuffed in a gym bag.
I hate men but I love their dicks. How I wish I'd been born a lesbian.
the gymbag thing predated that moid hyjacking the fetish by making a thread
It just feels dirty. It's not just a fetish. It's supposed to be a fantasy of moids becoming more cute instead of gross and small.
Well you could just use a regular duffle bag i guess.
Honestly the whole gym bag thing came about mostly as a reference for how small they need to be to not stand a chance against women physically.
As in if you can fit them in a duffle bag or gymbag, even the weakest of women would likely be able to overpower them.
I guess the whole raccoon moid thing escalated from there.
Yeah. That's the point where it really stopped being interesting and just became a femdom fetish.
The gym bag thing doesn't really exclude any of the cute stuff.
You could still have your moid weaf cute outfits and make you small pastries.
Him legally being your property is really just to make it different than any other role reversal fantasy.
You'd still have to build trust with him.
is everyone here too scared to look at a red board?
everything in 4chan screenshots is blue too
Funny. Ask straight women and many would say being with guys feels like they're just trying to get something from you, either sex, you as an arm candy or more sex.
Men and women are really incompatible. True love and appreciation can only blossom between same gender people. Hope I'll be born as a lesbian in my next life.
This is just the tip of the iceberg of their total hatred for women. Any woman who still chooses to defend men is plain stupid.
That's fine with me, they as in ALL men as a group can go date each other and women can go enjoy their freedom without having to breastfeed and rear children
The level of delusion in this thread is ridiculous. Most men like women and enjoy their company. Most women like men and enjoy their company. Get out of your basements and stop falling for depressing memes perpetuated by bitter hateful losers.
I see another couple daily and she leaves to hang out with her friends instead of her boyfriend. Sad, but realistic.
Disclaimer; see as in literally watching what they do
I mean I wouldnt base my view of how well men and women get along based on one couple either.
And enjoying someones presence doesnt mean you want to be around them and only them all the time… even though Ive seen couples like that too. If they didnt like eachother why are they even a couple? They could just fuck once in a while and not interact with eachother outside of that at all. Id say that the simple fact that people chose to be in relationahips with the opposite sex other than fuckbuddies and parents raising children is proof enough that we can enjoy eachothers company.
>>41888>tfw you will never have a raccoon moid to come hone to after getting shitfaced at a work party>ywn see your moid greeting you at the door just for you to pick him up and throw him on your couch>ywn collapse ontop of him and pass out>ywn have your moid squirm out from under you just to fetch a blanket to throw on top of you>ywn wake up to him tucked in your arms as a result of you training him to always act as your teddybear even if he's not tired
>>42151>>tfw you will never have a raccoon moid to come hone to after getting shitfaced at a work party>>ywn see your moid greeting you at the door just for you to pick him up and throw him on your couch
What the fuck sis
>>42152>to come home TO
Oh, never mind, I thought you’re one of those intox fetishits.
anon there is only one way to manage your feelings, make her proud
Honestly raccoon moid world is far better for comfy posting than it is for fetish posting.
I mean wouldn't you want a small boyfriend to tuck you in and cuddle you whenever you drunkenly collapse on your couch after one of those shitty corporate parties where all you can do is drink?
>>42153>to come hone to
I thought this was a rather obvious typo.
What exactly did you think I meant?
Girl gets relationshio with guy, this is what happened to her sanity
some relationships will be bad, some will be good.
I think a big problem on this website is that some of you spend WAY too much time on the internet and on toxic places like r9k and such. Eventually, this forms the femcels who are EXACTLY like the incels they despise (lol). Pair this with a negative experience(s) with men solidifies their twisted point of view and confirms their hatred and misandry.
From being on this site a while I'm pretty sure that a fair amount (not all!) of these negative experiences come from hanging around and spending time with obviously low-class and bad men, then wondering why they are getting treated poorly. Is it because you are a trash person as well? I don't know.
I think many of the venomous femcels here know they are being mostly ridiculous and would be embarrassed to spout most of their beliefs in public.
Just try and find happiness and balance in life before looking for a relationship. Just my advice.
now to be abused and accused of being a guy. such is life posting on cc!
>>42248>this forms the femcels who are EXACTLY like the incels they despise
yikes. people need to stop making this comparison until femcels start making the news for trying to murder men
>>42271>this moid looked in the mirror and said "I'm a lowtest small jaw beta male goblin"
They're so much more intelligent.
Poor femcels getting lumped together with a small group of crazy feminists.
we have so much to learn from korean feminists
I mean I do spend a lot of time on the internet too, but men are no less awful irl. The only difference is that irl you can actually interact with some
men without immediately regretting your decision to do so, but most are just as shallow, sexist and annoying as on the internet. They are always rude or at least inconsiderate and can only talk about their fuckign stupid circlejerk shit like cars and if you wanna be a part of their discussion then you have to force yourself in cause they are quite content with just ignoring you for 30 minutes as they talk about which car make vrrrrr fastest. Fuck men. There are some good ones but as a whole they are fucking assholes. I try to be nice to everyone but males have worn my patience so thin that I can feel myself become a more cynical person by the day.
Men irl are mostly decent to your face, but no matter how many times I tried to befriend them it always ends with 'ok now fuck me' ,or them revealing misogyny, or they're totally emotionally dead and it's like talking to mud when anything except video games and school comes up. Most aren't raging coomers and misogynists up front, they keep it hidden until they get comfy and let it slip. Not all men are rapist/murderers/etc, but the vast majority are just subpar and not worth getting to know.
>>42616>Men irl are mostly decent to your face
yes no matter how nice they are to your face, they're absolutely shit talking you in the locker room as a form of male bonding
Yeah that's what I mean. They can only ever talk about cars and video games and one extra topic per person (like mumble rap, shitty clothes, eligion, politics, etc). They are gonna be "nice" to you but will say the most hurtful and disenheartening shit in such casual manner that I just do not ever wanna interact with them again and they have no clue I even got offended. I only know one guy irl who is not like this and while I have a huge crush on him, I strongly suspect he is either gay or an incel, which sort of speaks for itself.
Honestly I wish there was female only apartments and workplaces and schools. I'm tired of interacting with them. You can just feel that as a collective they're rapidly decaying (coomerism, being passive aggressive bitches at work/school, no emotional depth, no dreams).
>>42618>say the most hurtful and disenheartening shit in such casual manner
Any examples you can tell us about?
Your and the other recent posts confirm what I've always thought about men but because so many straight women seem to get along with them just fine, I thought there was something wrong with me. Well, I guess there is. My tolerance threshold for guys is too low. My best friends were always female and I don't talk to guys if I don't have to.
>>42621>so many straight women seem to get along with them just fine, I thought there was something wrong with me
Most women are spineless people pleasers who have no problem with acting like a 'good girl' and letting men's shit slide. Whether it's because they're too naive, or too submissive. If female socialization hasn't fully beaten you into the mold then you're more likely to trigger them/not put up with men's shit.
>>42615>can only talk about their fuckign stupid circlejerk shit like cars>>42618>They can only ever talk about cars and video games and one extra topic per person (like mumble rap, shitty clothes, eligion, politics, etc)
between these posts you have now dismissed tech (cars), entertainment (vidya, music), worldview (religion, politics) and fashion (shitty clothes) as valid conversation topics.
i'm starting to wonder what they are even supposed to be talking about that would NOT immediately trigger you into hating them even more?
>>42618>I only know one guy irl who is not like this and while I have a huge crush on him, I strongly suspect he is either gay or an incel, which sort of speaks for itself.
so you like the guy, but in your mind you have created a narrative about how he's part of an internet cabal of crazy woman haters, and that's what prevents you from making a move?
seek professional help
Nta but she said they only know 2 topics max per person. That's the thing.
i dont know, it just comes off as so dishonest to say "i never talk to men unless i absolutely have to" and then go "all they talk about is cars they so stupid lol"
like how could you even judge that based on casual small talk between strangers? even from just watching them post on 4chan i can tell that they do indeed talk about a lot more stuff than "cars and mumble rap"
On your heroic quest to whiteknight guys, you mixed up two different anons there.
How come this hatred of men seemingly vanishes the second you point out just how bad black moids are? I've met other girls that were robbed, beaten and even raped by them and they still find it within themselves to treat them like poor innocent babies that need protection.
I've read how sexworkers specifically go out of their way not to have them as clients because of how often they get physical/verbal abuse from them and on top get straight up robbed multiple times and everyone instantly goes from #herbodyherchoice to shunning them out for daring to be concerned for their physical and mental health.
Jacob Blake got shot 7 times in the back after he raped a girl and decided to get a cop in a headlock and everyone got together to give him a million dollars for his troubles.
What the hell is wrong with everyone that they just HAVE to protect black men so badly? Specially with how badly they treat black women, nearly every song in ghetto culture is about calling them bitches and hoes, pimping them out, beating them up. The single motherhood rate is at 70%, black women don't deserve black men.
I feel like I'm losing my mind and I can't take it anymore.
>It's because there is a leftist hierarchy and white women are below black moids under that hierarchy.>Lots of non-leftists repeatedly pointed this out when millennials started their SJW shenanigans years ago, but apparently noticing that is just fascism and hatred and means you want genocide or something.
It seems women in general are under minority group moids, mtf moids, gay moids, for all the talk sjws have about equality they're so quick to throw women under the bus like this.
I hate how women and girls are now conditioned to defend them too, not just sjw, I had to talk a sexual abuse survivor into not reliving her assault at the hands of a black man so she doesn't end up getting trafficked, riddled with STDs (which black men are 7 times more likely to have) or worse and she lost all trust in me because I pointed this out. I just don't get it, I'm genuinely concerned for her mental and physical well being and she instantly turns against me. I can't see it as anything but brainwashing at this point.
so your mind is always like have sex have sex have sex have sex
The Black race as a whole is fucking trash, men or women. Black women get the men they raise, a lot of the time by themselves because the father is in prison. They deserve them.
red boards are extremely low IQ
Redboards are cesspools of trannies, incels, polfags, coomers, and other mentally deficient species.
it's the result of decades and decades of anti white indoctrination through education and media
school curriculum, university doctrine and entertainment media are constantly barraging people with narratives about>WHITE MAN BAD AND EVIL>BLACK MAN NICE AND GOOD
this is usually wrapped in emotional appeals to kindness and 'being a good person' and everything that contradicts this is branded as evil nazi lies and threatened with social ostracism, so it works extremely well on impressionable young girls and women
I actually kind of agree with this. If you criticize rap and hip hop music you get branded as a racist because country and rock also have sexist themes in their songs, but they seemingly forget that those genres tend to have a more subtle form of misogyny while rap music unquestionably has the most songs about straight up wanting to rape and murder women and everybody seems to think it's totally fine. Black men also treat black women horribly as you mentioned. They have the highest rates of DV and intimate partner homicide.
I have no problem with black women. They seem to be fine on their own. They're the most educated group of people in the US. It seems like it's their moids dragging them down. Also many black women agree with your criticism about Jacob Blake and Black Lives Matter in general. Many of them refuse to protest for an organization which barely helps black women and supports men with criminal histories of violence against women.
>>42747>They're the most educated group of people in the US
this is a complete lie btw
if you go by actual degree data, most educated will be indian americans, by far. black women rank near the very bottom, barely above black moids
Oh no, the reason I never made a move on him was because he was from a crazy rich family (literally attending oxford now) and while I am not poor per sé, I am not far. Even if he did like me back despite this, his parents would never allow it and i didn't wanna cause pointless friction.>>42627
That's not what I mean. I like to talk about music, movies, cooking, and I can talk about other shit or at least pretend to be interested but they only talk about those specific things. Men do not talk about "politics" they talk about how much they hate miniriotes and nothing else, or they talk about yeezys and supreme instead of talking about "fashion". There was this guy in my HS that would sometimes hang around with my friend group and he was pretty fun and talkative but when these exact topics were brought up again he would literally immediately switch off and find someone else to talk to or pull out his phone since he was clearly so piss tired of talking about it all the time. Sorry if this doesnt make perfect sense, im a little drunk atm and too angry to care.>>42621
Well one pretty recent example is that I almost never used to tie my hair (except for when it was getting in the way during work or such), not for any particular reason I just thought it fit me well, but recently I got into braiding and started wearing my hair in basic braids and this one guy I was talking to over lunch told me (paraphrasing since i am asl): "it is so cool you wear your hair tied up like that, you looked absolutely terrible with your hair untied and now at least the braid draws attention away [from your face]". I was just completely flabbergasted but it was clear to me he meant it as a compliment lmfao. Yeah I do not talk with him anymore.
Literal brainwashing by the Jewish media.
I just noticed that >>42636
was supposed to be a reply to >>42632
Did you tell him how his "compliment" came across? lol
i just wanna live in a commune with like minded women away from men so badly
I wonder what the legalise would be to get a woman-only gated community in the US. There are exceptions to age-based discrimination laws to allow senior-only communities. I wonder if the same could be done to have a space for women to be free from men.
>Agreed, I doubt any actual men would have a problem with it. They like having their own boy's club so I think they'd understand
The problem is they're not allowed to have their male only space at all so get angry at the double standard. Let them do it as well and both genders would happily segregate the parts of their life where that's most valuable and then everyone would naturally exclude the trannies from both into some gender neutral third set of spaces for the mentally ill.
Segregation would be appreciated until someone realized they had the inferior business/library/drinking fountain/whatever, then suddenly blame the other party for rigging the system in their favor.
Self-segregation in the social sphere is not the same as legally enforced segregation in every part of life. Plus the radical left already has self-segregation for every identity but white male and non-tranny woman anyway.>>42858
This. Of course when that happens the inferior group will simply campaign to insert itself into the superior space while maintaining its own segregated areas too just as has been seen in the USA or the muslim-only regions of European towns.
It doesn't matter how well it is done, no group is going to willing admit they are bad at something. The moment they start failing they will blame an outgroup.
See any feminist screaming about how more women should be in STEM.
>most men are pretty quick to admit they're poorer caretakers of children, and prefer to leave it to a woman
Not directly related to the main topic but it's a very bad idea to have children that don't interact with their father figure properly or worse yet not at all it leads to shitty kids of both genders. That's not to say you couldn't have a mother being the primary caregiver and still have healthy interaction but it has to be there. There's a reason most of /r9k/ was raised by single mothers.
Fair enough then.
>Single mothers raise violent men
And flawed daughters too though usually not violently so at least, just permanently immature. Nobody nowadays will fund any research that confirms to the anti-tranny truth of gender differences but from digging around on wikipedia apparently a lack of interaction with the male parent leads to poor control over emotions due to mothers coddling the child when they act out. That'd make sense since uncontrolled male emotions tend towards violence rather than more subtle social issues. Also less empathy without a father figure which is interesting because you'd assume they would learn that from the mother but maybe that bit is specific to male children not having someone to model their behaviour on.
Hatred for another "tribe" is a lizard brain thing you can over come if you just focus enough.
Think about all the men you do like or the accomplishments of men that have benefited you. Realize it's okay to recognize patterns but in the end we're all individuals and should be judged on our own actions, regardless of tribe.
When I was a teenager I would get emotionally racists from seeing bad shit black people would do, but then I would think about all the good black people I know and just remind myself what I said about, individuals.
>Men need to be made stronger, it's the weak ones who feel the need to put down others. Being physically strong, and having a strong father figure influences boys positively by letting them understand how to manage and direct their aggression. The best men I've ever known have all been the strongest men I've known.
I think the strength thing is a bit of correlation over causation. Having a strong father figure and a good set of morals and life goals leads to their exercising properly and so on and ending up as actual men rather than manchildren who'll only visit a gym to try and build muscles for show not for their own benefit as a human being. Unless that's what you meant by managing and directing their aggression and I just misinterpreted it.
Girls can also benefit from seeing the two different ways of handling emotion between however their mother acts in terms of empathy, social abilities, better cooperation instead of male competition and a decent father's emotional management, control and forcefullness to not be a doormat. That's not a father who's completely stoic and unfeeling but one who has a handle on it. Also of course for heterosexual daughters they can learn the difference between an actually decent man and one who puts on the performance of being one just to attract women. Obviously on the other hand children raised without the involvement of the mother particularly male children end up devaluing anything social, empathetic or emotional that isn't obviously physically valuable but the single father arrangement is so rare it's hard to draw in-depth conclusions.
>that's why our harpy sisters have it backwards
Funny enough I agree with them that most men are shit and men/women should be segregated to keep those shit men from hurting us but an honest to god good man is such a good influence to not only yourself but your family, the community and even the country as a whole.
Men should be encouraged not to be shit and ironically the way to do it is to end this whole sexual liberation failure that puts the role of women in their minds as sexdolls to be used instead of partners to take care of each other.
>most men are pretty quick to admit they're poorer caretakers of children
"Most men" don't say this. Flight risks do. Men who don't want to do the job of parenting will find a reason to stop.
Sex segregated education for the teenage years help could solve all three problems you bring up. Frankly teenagers of both genders are more often than not horrible people without proper empathy so removing the sexual competition element of bullying can only help and it would allow both genders to get the type of education that best suits them. And not being constantly exposed to the other gender every day of the week should help with the excessive push for sex at a young age. The problem is you could also cause serious developmental issues for children who don't have siblings of the other genre, aren't outgoing enough to have contact with peers their age outside of school and so don't then get proper exposure until it's too late.
>Men should be encouraged not to be shit and ironically the way to do it is to end this whole sexual liberation failure that puts the role of women in their minds as sexdolls to be used instead of partners to take care of each other.
I wouldn't say to reverse sexual liberation completely but there certainly needs to be an emphasis on long-term relationships only plus treating every relationship as if it could be permanent including not dating people for fun when you know you aren't compatible with them on a fundamental level. The current system prioritises superficial elements for one night stands and other short-term relationships and while superficial women are sad excuses for people who can only derive value from being desired men who undertake only the superficial elements of masculinity like violence/anger/aggression, objectifying women, excessive risk taking and worst of all hipster beards instead of things like self-control and defending the vulnerable are actively dangerous to themselves and everyone around them.
>>42895>including not dating people for fun when you know you aren't compatible with them on a fundamental level.
I forgot to say as well that that this is partly because doing this will always leave one party bitter when they're inevitably dropped through no fault of their own and again a bitter woman might be pitiful but a bitter man has a non-negligible chance of eventually turning violent.
>>42895>Sex segregated education for the teenage years
I legit forgot this was a thing lol, if this was federal it would be ideal.
>and worst of all hipster beards
No thanks. If she hadn't reported it other people would have, like me.
What happened to half the thread? Is it related to >>42940 by some chance? Surely you could ban someone and not delete their posts so the conversation still makes sense.
If it weren't so outdated I'd advocate for calling dating only with the intent of a serious relationship as courting or something so we could make the distinction. Also that would involve far less of a sexual element. It's impractical to revert to arranged marriages or expecting everyone to settle down forever with their first serious partner even if both parties think that's possible so there has to be room for failure.
>Need to end the idea of dating
not gonna happen, normies LOVE their casual hookups and serial short term relationships
They're easily controlled through the media and education and honestly most normalfags don't enjoy the current situation either. For every one of them who's having sex constantly there's plenty who spend most of their time alone and desperate. If they weren't indoctrinated into it they'd realise the system doesn't work for them at all.
but how do you propose to change that?
like, the only ideologies who would be on board with this type of anti degeneracy agenda are hard right wingers like traditionalist religious groups, internet incels, and neo fascists. the further left you go from there, the less acceptance your ideas will find because the further left you go the more pro degeneracy people get.
"sexual liberation" is like the single biggest achievement feminism takes pride in. no libfem woman (and almost no radfem woman either) is going to ever be willing to admit that it might have been a mistake and is hurting us. even when theyre crying their eyes out after getting pumped and dumped by some abusive lowlife for the tenth time in a row, they'll still never admit that the system might be fucking shit, instead they'll make excuses for the status quoe and just blame their misery on men (but still seek out and accept the same dehumanizing treatment from the same type of men in the future again anyway)
18 is too young to get married but the other part seems sensible. I don't think you necessarily have to go the whole hog of virgin partners only or no sex before marriage which is pretty unrealistic for most people unless you're getting married so young but no sex outside of a serious relationship would be a good start.>>43014>like, the only ideologies who would be on board with this type of anti degeneracy agenda are hard right wingers like traditionalist religious groups, internet incels, and neo fascists. the further left you go from there, the less acceptance your ideas will find because the further left you go the more pro degeneracy people get.
That's only because the mainstream media outside of a few specific news channels and education are currently dominated by those with such beliefs. Normalfags don't really care either way as long as they're not told to care and now we're at the point normalfag-appreciated pieces of media are being banned and rioters are burning down their houses they could be persuaded to ignore what you were doing even if they don't directly support it. And you underestimate how conservative the average normalfag is once they age out of their teens and early 20s. They're not Conservative in the hard sense like a fundamentalist might be but they don't support radical policies and actions without good reason. It's a more extreme take on this than I'd advocate but you can go look up the polls for how many people thought Mike Pence wasn't unreasonable to say he wouldn't visit a restaurant 1:1 with a woman other than his wife for example.
>"sexual liberation" is like the single biggest achievement feminism takes pride in. no libfem woman (and almost no radfem woman either) is going to ever be willing to admit that it might have been a mistake and is hurting us. even when theyre crying their eyes out after getting pumped and dumped by some abusive lowlife for the tenth time in a row, they'll still never admit that the system might be fucking shit, instead they'll make excuses for the status quoe and just blame their misery on men (but still seek out and accept the same dehumanizing treatment from the same type of men in the future again anyway)
Teach people the difference between the waves of feminism and then devalue the extremist waves and subtypes that value this then introduce a new type of feminism that proposes what we're talking about and don't call it anti-sexual liberation call it something else like post-feminist relationships or post-liberation relationships or anything snappier. Normalfags want to feel like they're at the forefront of progress or will be on the right side of history so make it seem like a cutting edge thing not a reversion to the way it used to be. The problem is the myth that in the past marriage used to result in women being locked into a domestic role which was untrue outside of the super rich and a small period from 1945-1965 but again use that to your advantage by pretending that that old way of living combined with the good parts of the modern system is a new ideology. Subconsciously they'll know on some level that the current system is fucked and that they want to return to something like the old way of doing it but you need to give them the mental space to do so without admitting it to themselves. You keep the modern stuff like shared parental leave that's actually a good idea too and also so you can point to that as proof it's a totally new ideology.
>>43017>>43014>It's a more extreme take on this than I'd advocate but you can go look up the polls for how many people thought Mike Pence wasn't unreasonable to say he wouldn't visit a restaurant 1:1 with a woman other than his wife for example.https://archive.vn/wip/PNDg7https://archive.vn/wip/CYX4r
Now we can debate all day what % of that is due to fear of the men from women and fear of rape accusations the other way around but it's interesting nonetheless. Like I said that's more extreme than I think you need to go but it shows that in the United States at least more people than you might think are conscious about this type of thing. Source on the image is the second link above.
Another interesting one is this graph. Note how young women religious or not both think it's far less appropriate. That could be some sort of #metoo reaction resulting in extreme fear of men of course but that'd have to be a pretty big reaction. Source same as previous.