Melanie Martinez rape allegations Anonymous 1787
i think she's a gross creep and wouldn't put this shit past her. her entire aesthetic is this vapid selfish tumblrina-type 'nymphette' and she's arrogant as fuck. "i wrote pity party cause one of my bday sucked wah wah" and she always tries to act humble but gives off the impression of being stuck up and thinking she's hot shit, which is funny coming from someone who's only interesting feature is her shitty, unoriginal dyed hair that reminds me of thos god awful gothic lolita wigs.
Considering the songs she puts out, I'm not surprised at all.
So another woman begs you to have sex with her, you agree in the end, and then you were raped? Seriously?I was raped by one of my mother's female friends when I was a kid, and to me this whole situation is hysterical. She decided to have sex with her, period. She could have said "no, fuck that" and left. Sorry if nowadays people regretting having sex with each other can be considered rape but that's just bollocks to me.
Yes, I'm dead serious, and I know I'm biased because I was raped by multiple people when I was a kid, so I have a different POV on the topic. But yeah, I'm damn serious. Sorry if you (and the majority) will probably disagree. Especially this case in particular, it sounds like bullshit. I won't comment in this thread anymore because I hate going into this topic, it sends me back to hell, but that's how I strongly feel about it. If you think that is rape, then fine and I wouldn't argue with you irl anyways.
Imagine someone telling you that the sexual assault you suffered from was "bullshit"? What the fuck is wrong with you?
there's a difference between physically forceful rape and mentally breaking someone down into giving in, which is still assault. even if you don't call it rape, harassing someone into sex is very real and very scary. you are invalidating everyone who's ever been pressured into sex and felt it was an issue. i'm sorry for what happened to you, but you can't pick and choose based on your own suffering.
i'm with you, anon. she seriously giggled and told her high "best friend" that "it tickles" and expects melanie to think she's not interested? fuCKIN KEK!
i don't think she understands that a lot of people can be really dense or naturally bad at picking up signals when they're stoned.
and why couldn't she just up and leave if she was so uncomfortable?
or if they're such ~*close friends*~ you shouldn't be afraid to tell her to fuck off because you're /that/ comfortable with each other already.
she talks about this "power" melanie has on her as if she fucking casted a spell. it's sketchy, man.
i get regretting sex w someone sucks because i've felt that too but let's not publicly expose your friend and ruin their whole lives for it by calling it rape.
Even so, to spend all night begging for sex only to be met with deflections to continue on for a second night is pretty fucked up behavior. >>1801>she talks about this "power" melanie has on her as if she fucking casted a spell. it's sketchy, man.
severe codependecy is a real issue that some people face. it seems like this woman had past trauma she never dealt with and latched onto melanie in a mentally unhealthy way.
i just hope she gets dragged like men do when they get these accusations. i've seen people criticize this for the fact that she's a woman saying it will distract from real rape, but i think it's going to help other victims of same sex rape speak up about their experiences.
completely revolving your world around someone and being extremely codependent is unhealthy and seriously fucked up behavior as well. i think they could both be at fault here. i don't want to believe anything or anyone yet unless there's solid evidence and they decide take it to court.
i don't think you should be blaming anyone, sexual assault victim or not, for their mental health issues.
She never agreed. She stated she never said yes, but she did claim to have repeatedly say no during it.
Even if you don't consider it sexual assault, she did consistently sexually harass her.
It wasn't rape, but they will blow it out of proportions because she's famous and because everyone is a rapist or a victim now.
Having sex with your best friend is a pretty idiotic idea, I think there are exceptions but in general it's a bad idea.
I'd have regretted doing it too but I don't know if that is something I'd call "rape".
I've read all these caps, and I don't see how it's rape specifically. This is someone who begrudgingly gave in to the desperation of a 'bestie' who, in turn, she needed for codependency's sake and now regrets it. Yet instead of taking partial responsibility for the outcome, it's easier to label it rape.
For example, why would she have agreed to smoke weed with someone who she claims sexually solicited her for days straight? Weed makes people horny and open to suggestion.
Why would she sleep in the same bed of someone who's ignoring her saying no?
Why would she let her touch her arm and giggle? "It tickles?"
She was far from "silent" based on her own narrative, she just never reacted appropriately like getting angry, or sad, or any other kind of bodily cue that would tell her 'bestie' that something is fucking wrong.
Maybe we need a segment in sex education about how to handle rejecting unwanted sexual advances and what to do. Obviously this is a serious problem.
>>1826>>For example, why would she have agreed to smoke weed with someone who she claims sexually solicited her for days straight? Weed makes people horny and open to suggestion.
For one, you don't know Timothy's general reaction to weed and a lot of people actually get less horny on weed? I mean, keep in mind, this is her best friend and she probably isn't thinking, "Oh, Melanie will actually fuck me".
>>Why would she sleep in the same bed of someone who's ignoring her saying no?
See my above point. Also, she's high, right, weed does shit to you.
>>Why would she let her touch her arm and giggle? "It tickles?"
For a lot of people, giggling while being tickled is involuntary and they've never learned to not laugh while being tickled.
>>She was far from "silent" based on her own narrative, she just never reacted appropriately like getting angry, or sad, or any other kind of bodily cue that would tell her 'bestie' that something is fucking wrong.
Idk, if someone's quiet when you're doing a sexual activity with them and they've said no a billion times before, that's a pretty strong indicator something is wrong.
>>1827>>1827>you don't know Timothy's general reaction to weed and a lot of people actually get less horny on weed?
Actually talking about Mel on that front, not Timothy.>weed does shit to you
Weed doesn't make people incoherent and incapable of rational decisions like say alcohol. >giggling while being tickled is involuntary and they've never learned to not laugh while being tickled
Regardless, giggling can be taken as a sign of interest and playfulness. Giggling and saying something tickles isn't saying 'No, stop, I'm not okay with you touching me.' >if someone's quiet
She wasn't quiet. She says as much here >>1790
Then, she allowed Melanie to touch her arm, started giggling when she made physical advances, and finally gave in to her suggestions later. She says she didn't say no because she just wanted it to be over. That makes no sense.
This thread is a whole lot of projecting.
Idk I believe it man, she's got that weird entitlement famous people get
well timothy initially left out the part that mel was high too
and tim just stated she doesn't intend to deal with this professionally in the court of law, the timing is iffy and shit
anyone else her thought her music was whatever anyway?
now i have another reason to dislike her.
I'm not a fan of her or her aesthetic or her shit attitude. I read in an interview once she's one of those people who acts like their creepy child exploitation aesthetic cannot be misconstrued as perverse in any way, and the people criticizing her for refusing to acknowledge it can be seen as perverse are the real perverts.
Not to mention over time all of her staff slowly began to leave until it was just Melanie herself doing the directing, makeup, costume, etc for videos. That coupled with her former MUA and friend who played the mother in one of her videos speaking out about her shitty attitude towards others should give people an idea of how entitled this girl is. Obviously, I'm not saying that it shows what a rapist she is, but rather her entitlement. There was also that other friend who Mel pressured into sex that spoke out on Twitter and Mel claiming that a psychic told her that she needed to drop friends if she wanted to win a Grammy.
The chick is self obsessed and weird altogether.
yeah when i first listened to it (long before this scandal) i was fully ready to love it but it's so dull to me. Her voice is fine but not particularly interesting to me and the instrumentals are so sparse and boring to me. There's just nothing for me to sink my teeth into. It's just a style of music that's lost on me
Same sex rape is already taken seriously if the rapist is a man and the victim is straight.
Victims of female rapists aren't taken seriously across the board, whether it's same sex or not.
At the same time, I'm not sure that female abusers need the same kind of media attention that male abusers do. It's definitely real and valid, but it's not systemic in the same way that abuse from men is. Whenever someone speaks out publicly about their abuse at the hands of men, it's slowly de-normalizing the violence we all acknowledge but view as somehow acceptable or expected. In fact, I worry that mass efforts to raise awareness about individual female abusers might somehow undermine our efforts to topple our patriarchal system.
And I say this as someone who has been abused by women before. I really don't need the whole world to understand and acknowledge my pain; I only want the system we have in place that's literally creating rapists to be stopped.
>>1871>don't require the same sort of attention>lesbian domestic violence/sexual abuse is something not taken seriously enough both within the lgbt and outside of it
But sex abuse is not solely a gendered thing, it's about the imbalance of power that one person uses against others. True that men are disproportionately responsible due to existing gender roles and patriarchal society, but that doesn't mean relationship violence is not worthy of attention simply because there are major perpetrators. Like >>1873
said, LGBT sexual abuse is a concern that isn't commonly addressed. Especially since the perception in seriousness is brought up. If there is no media attention, will people ever take female rapists seriously and will there ever be gender equality and accountability?
she also does michelle phan tier eye enlarging makeup and uses those split wigs that went in and out of style like 5 years ago, and acts as if she invented some kind of innovative ~aesthetic~ when she clearly just copied a bunch of tumblr trends.
To be fair I'm sure she didn't invent or create anything just like 95% of all famous popstars. She was "created" and produced by people who saw they could make her big with Tumblr aesthetics.
this was decidedly her aesthetic beforehand. that's the thing, she was chosen cause of her aesthetic.
She had been using that aesthetic since she was competing on The Voice, anon.
>>1871>it's only a bad thing when men do it
you're no better than the MRAs
biased and proud of it