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Anonymous 24990

Most anime isn't really that good.

Made in Abyss was really good but that's it.

I still like anime aesthetics but I've given up giving anime a chance

Anonymous 24991

agreed, there are so many better reasons to be a japanophile than anime.

Anonymous 24993

>>24990
>Made in Abyss
Very boring
>>24991
>there are so many better reasons to be a japanophile
Name two. Hardmode nothing related to the arts or sushi.

Anonymous 24995

>>24990
It's really good when you're young and you don't know how repetitive it is yet.

Anonymous 24997

>Most anime isn't really that good.
Correct
>Made in Abyss was really good but that's it.
I've heard it's creepy pedoshit torture porn but that it has amazing worldbuilding and that guy with the tail is hot. What a waste.
>I still like anime aesthetics but I've given up giving anime a chance
Unironically good for you. I can't say I'm the same as you, but I only watch what's recommended as the only worthwhile anime by LC nonas and some retro anime classics, so I guess I've kinda given up on it too? Like, I acknowledge that 90% of everything that has been released from the 10's to today is pure garbage, so what's the point of giving it a chance? I won't just watch any bullshit, only shows that really convince me of watching them even when I'm not actively looking for something new.

>>24992

>that pic
kek

Anonymous 24998

>>24993
good cars, the vast majority of classic video games, the actual greatest city in the world, beautiful language, war crimes

Anonymous 24999

Agree. The only good anime I’ve seen is Death Note and even then it was only the first half. Stein’s Gate sucked, and I gave up on Monster, both of which are always high rated. Naruto sucked, I don’t know why I watched so many episodes if it. Ghiblis tend to be good but the bad ones get over hyped. The end of Howl makes zero sense, even if the start is amazing. Sailor Moon and Utena are unwatchable because the plot is so repetitive. Same for Oh My Goddess. Chobits was way to perverted and I don’t understand why so many teen girls used include it on their favourites list. I’m sure there are plenty others so terrible I’ve thankfully forgotten them.

It’s sad because I always wanted to learn Japanese so I could read manga and watch anime in Japanese but now that my language skills are at that level, there’s nothing I want to watch or see. I can’t bare the thought of sitting through another repetitive plotline or something full of boring filler.

Anonymous 25000

>>24997
NTA but I agree on what you said about worthwhile anime.It's the same idea I have with all media, really. No point in watching something unless it's received rave reviews first. I also have a lot of trouble telling apart different anime, unless it's something like Lucky Star or Evangelion.

Anonymous 25001

Probably just a case of you watching shitty anime. I quite enjoy it, personally.

Anonymous 25004

>>24999
Or maybe actually knowing japanese made it clear to you how repetitive the language can often be. How uninspired MOST of the scripts are. A lot of writing for English anime actually has to be improved, because the scripts are so damn monotonous. I honestly don't understand how they greenlight most of it. Although I think they try to be a lot more clever now, the writers still treat their writing like they're practically proud of their cliches

Anonymous 25006

>>24990
I disagree. Anime, manga and LN touch on many topics and feelings not usually explored in Western media, furthermore in an aesthetically pleasing way and providing a community built around them as well. I don't think I'd ever see a Madoka Magica or a Haibane Renmei or a Boogiepop in any other medium.

Anonymous 25007

>>24990
I like MiA but something about seeing it of all shows listed as the only good anime is hilarious.
This post sums up all there is to this discussion >>24992

Anonymous 25009

I just binge watched devilman crybaby. I didn’t finish it when it first came out but i decided to give a chance last night. Good shit

Anonymous 25011

>>24993
Is mythology and folkore considered art?

Anonymous 25012

Manga is better 200% of the time.

Anonymous 25013

>>24990
Yeah. Most highly rated anime isn't good either. Which is obvious when you see the sort of people watching anime. So there's no foolproof way of finding good anime.

Anonymous 25014

>>25004
That would make sense. When I would ask adults in Japan if they watch anime, they would always say no.

Anonymous 25015

>>25004
Honestly I think they could just stop paying voice actors and copy and paste old recordings into the new shows and people wouldn't know the difference. At least I wouldn't.

Anonymous 25016

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Can anyone recommend me anime that you really enjoyed?

What's the anime equivalent to quality media like True Detective?
I don't mean in genre, I mean in level of quality and maturity.

Anonymous 25017

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>>25016
I really enjoyed the works of Satoshi Kon. Perfect Blue is my favorite animated film. The original Macross movie is gorgeous to watch, but the plot is really meh to me compared to the series. They introduce some bizarre battle of the sexes subplot that just kills one character's personality by turning him into a raging chauvinist.

As far as intelligent series go, I think Houseki no Kuni counts, but the anime really only exists as a commercial for the manga. It suffers heavily from being a seasonal anime where it has a none ending. It's bad enough that they introduce a major character in the second to last episode, and cut another out completely.

Kaiba is great, in my opinion. It's an anime original, so the story actually finishes. I think the art style really doesn't match the tone of the story, but it makes it memorable and alien.

Katanagatari has a good aesthetic, but I felt it was a bit too rushed even though every episode is an hour long.

Anonymous 25020

>>25016
There is not a single one that will ever compare to something like true detective. Never will be one.

Anonymous 25022

>>25016
I liked Michiko to Hatchin and Samurai Champloo. Probably basic choices but I don't think I've ever enjoyed an anime as much as those two besides a couple Satoshi Kon films and Princess Mononoke. They're self-contained, aren't serialized and aren't based off a pre-existing property.

Anonymous 25025

>>25020
True Detective sounds boring af tbqhfamalam

Anonymous 25026

>>25025
I watched the first episode and was extremely bored.

Anonymous 25030

>>25016
I don't even know what True Detective is but Legend of the Galactic Heroes is quite literally one of the best anime of all time. It's based on a science fiction novel (not a LN). You may watch the classic 1988 OVA adaptation or the new anime that's still ongoing (which is on Crunchyroll), there are some minor differences in the story but the core plot is essentially the same, although I'd recommend watching a bit of both first to see which one you prefer because they're significantly different experiences. Or if you prefer old anime you'll want to avoid the new one and vice versa.

Just a heads-up, though, you will either love it or be bored to death. I've seen people who normally aren't interested in political or military themes enjoy it a lot, so there's no way to tell if you'll like it or not until you watch it. And also, there's practically no sexual shit in it (at least in the old adaptation) so you don't have to worry about that.

Overall, I don't think a lot of quality anime gets made, in terms of writing. If you want mature stories in an anime-style visual medium it's better to read manga. I've heard that the Monster anime sucks compared to the original source and I'm sure that's the case for a lot of other anime too.

Anonymous 25039

>>25030
>I've heard that the Monster anime sucks compared to the original source
Personally I liked the anime, but it is very long and slow-paced, it's hard to get hooked if you don't know that the story will be actually good. The manga is perfectly paced and makes you want to continue reading.

Anonymous 25045

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>>25016
I liked Sonny Boy a lot
It is absolutely not “adult” - it is kinda coming of age story, but it feels like a real scifi with a heart. I liked the atmosphere of the series and the way it speaks to an audience - subtle, but not cryptic. It is a complete story.
Also I liked it visually - style, color, composition, animation - but that’s not for everybody’s taste

As for the western “mature” type: Cowboy Bebop? But I think it is too “anime” still. Even realistic spokons and grounded militaryporn has anime shticks

Anonymous 25048

Try GATE or Girls und Panzer

Anonymous 25050

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>Try GATE or Girls und Panzer

Anonymous 25055

>>25045
Is it anything like Hyouka? Hyouka is one of the rare animes I could really get into. I have a little list of them, but Hyouka is one of the top for me.

Anonymous 25061

I liked attack on Titan.

Anonymous 25068

>>24998
>Japanese
>Beautiful language
I only find English more obtuse.

Chinese > Korean >>> Japanese

Anonymous 25069

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>>25066
I'd say that most forms of media are composed of very few standout stellar things and loads of formulaic tropey stuff
Throwaway romance novels, power fantasy movies, shooter games, radio country music, etc
I think it just depends which formulas appeal to any given person

Anonymous 25071

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>>25016
>I don't mean in genre, I mean in level of quality
Well I can think of severa-
>and maturity.

I have no idea what this means, but I'm going to assume it means "grown up anime for adults" or something similar.

Ergo Proxy was very good, feels like it should have been a live action TV series over an anime but it's good.

Satoshi Kon films are good. As is his Paranoia Agent, which is probably one of the best anime TV series I've ever seen. His OVA (or rather part of the OVA) Memories is excellent.

The original Ghost in the Shell movie is possibly astonishingly well done. I can say the sequel has more powerful visuals, but far weaker narrative content. Any of the TV series are a mixed bag IMO.

If you haven't seen Cowboy Bepop I don't know how, but just in case there's that.

I feel like Wolf Children is mature, but that's technically a family film.

If you want a long slow-building narrative with political intrigue, then Legend of the Galatic Heroes is mature, with a good consistent quality.

Mushishi is good vibes central with a very calm, slow moving pace.

If going purely off of aesthetics as opposed to content, then I could recommend Catsoup, KatanaGatari, Mononoke (not Princess Mononoke, Mononoke), and Zetsubo-Sensei(if you don't find it funny just stop, the art style is interesting but not enough on it's own). All these suffer slightly from their story elements, but if you enjoy challenging visuals they're all good.

As a cavaet I'd say all Ghibli films are "mature" in that they don't fall back on any generic anime tropes, but again, technically aimed at children.

Anonymous 25084

>>25068
chinese sounds like someone reciting death rattles

>>25016
quality media and you metion shit like True Detective kek. You people have no respect whatsover for japanese animation whatsover and want it to be like prestige TV. If people actually bothered to watch and read shit here this garbage post would get buried under

Anonymous 25086

>>25068
chinese always sounds annoyed and korea sounds like japanese played backwards

Anonymous 25089

>>25084
>You people have no respect whatsover for japanese animation whatsover
the vast majority of what is known as "anime" is garbage made for autistic coomer manchildren to sell merchandise. There is nothing to "respect" about it, it's just mass produced media created for the goal of profit just like whatever the fuck you think is shit media. Most animators are treated like garbage too. Fucking weeaboos I swear.

Anonymous 25091

>>25016

>True Detective

>level of quality and maturity

I mean, you can shotgun 10 cans of bud light lime and watch beavis and butthead while having alcohol shits if you want an experience that's the same quality and maturity as True Detective.

Anonymous 25092

>>25016

I'd like to apologize for that post. I was wrong.

Bud light lime is too mature to compare with True Detective. It's a beverage for the depressed and experienced degenerate. Perhaps you could try chugging bottom-shelf vodka (the ones where you look at the price-per-ounce first, alcohol content second, and nothing third because you don't give a shit about the quality) like you're trying to forget everything you've learned in pre-algebra.

Anonymous 25133

>>25092
No one cares, scrote

Anonymous 25136

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gVDDpviKo

holy shit…maybe anime IS good?

Anonymous 25153

>>25136
this is a random Eva analysis video. what's so special about this particular video? there are loads and loads of similar ones

Anonymous 25176

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Is there any somewhat idyllic anime that are cute without being moe bait, but not sexualized and have nothing to do with school that is long (or an intro to a very long manga series)?
IMO I think Mushishi is a bit austere for my tastes–plus I'd prefer a female protagonist though there is exceptions. I loved Gintama.

I recently watched Kaiba and while it was very interesting it really hit me like a brick and I still feel the bruise.

Also–is something like Ranma 1/2 too horny/basic/male gazey? It's just I want something silly, a bit adventurous, etc. It just seems so fun and I love the art style.

Anonymous 25180

>>25176
Unironically Moomin family if you haven't watched it. So relaxing.

Anonymous 25181

>>25066
Everyone says this is a masterpiece but I've refused to watch it because I can't get past that little faggot choking Asuka and masturbating to her while in a comma and we're still supposed to feel sorry for him. I just really hate the empathetic incel trope. Am I missing out?

Anonymous 25182

>>25181
yes. those are supposed to be bad things and shinji is supposed to be a flawed character. You are supposed to hate him for it, but the anime is about trying to understand and forgive those things, not about liking them. Try to keep an open mind, it's really good if you can dig out the message from under the gundam and fanservice.

Anonymous 25183

Are there any anime where the women are treated like mentally competent human beings instead of mute braindead children?

Just watched Demon Slayer and holy shit it pissed me off. The treatment of women in that anime is abysmal, there literally aren't any respectable women in the entire goddamn show outside of maybe ONE of tengen's three wives

Anonymous 25184

Fullmetal Alchemist is great, my favorite, and was written and drawn by a woman.

Anonymous 25186

>>25182
When you put it like that, I feel stupid but I suppose I just can't divorce those bad things from misogyny, which to me is irredeemable. I get that he's supposed to be sympathetic for his self-worth issues but I'm not sure the audience considers his misogyny as one of his flaws. Maybe it's the crowd I've seen discussing it (which was mainly gen z) but I don't see anyone hating Shinji other than maybe a few dudebros calling him whiny. Most men relate to him and most women think he's an uwu uke and ship him with the other guy. But then again, I've probably watched way more misogynistic media with less artistic value so one day I might remind myself at least the pos is voiced by Megumi Ogata and give it a shot.

Anonymous 25187

>>25183
does it have to be seinen/action? I loved Princess Jellyfish' portrayal of adult outcast women but it's a more down to earth anime. nothing like demon slayer lol but I think many anons here could potentially like it.

Anonymous 25190

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>>25181
Eh, something can be a tight ship, doesn't mean someone needs to ride it or where it goes is for everyone.

I hear that Eva was basically made for male shut-ins…but, it having a crumb of subversion doesn't negate its other tropes or make it beyond them. If someone isn't feeling it, there's 0 reason to force themselves to watch it–there's plenty of interesting old anime with great themes, stories, etc, without us having to care for a guy that chokes girls as a huge part of the "message."

Anonymous 25197

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>>25183
JJK surprised me a lot. I was about to drop it and tease my friend for his shit taste but the final episode was not something I expected from a shonen at all.
I have a few problems but to me the final few episodes kind of saved it for me. Although I feel like lately I've gotten a but too picky/critical with anime I need to enjoy what I watch a bit more.
>>25176
I think studio Ghibli fits what you're describing.
If the school element isn't a huge problem I highly recommend Little Witch Academia. I found an anime called Flying Witch I haven't watched and I'd like to think it doesn't asexualize the main protagonist

Anonymous 25233

>>25176
Sorry if it's not exactly "idyllic", but I've seen Michiko to Hatchin recommended a lot due to being made by a woman and for an adult female audience. The director, Sayo Yamamoto (who worked on Samurai Champloo) wanted to make an anime for adult women to relax while watching after work:
>At the press conference where Yamamoto unveiled the series, she said she wanted women especially to watch the series. "Our time slot was late at night, so office ladies would be returning home, and worn out from the day, they could have a beer and watch it."
So demographic-wise, it'd be Josei.
Unfortunately, anime like it and Princess Jellyfish (another highly recommended anime for adult women, the manga is longer btw) are extremely rare. Most anime is made for autistic males, so well-written female characters that look and/or act like real women (or like what real women would like) are hard to come by.
There's also Gokusen, it's a comedy Josei manga/anime about a high school teacher who has to deal with delinquent students. I haven't read/watched it but I'll definitely do because I like delinquents and you rarely see that in media for women so this is like an ideal combo for me lol.
I hate to recommend MAL but you can check here if there's any Josei anime that catches your attention (which there probably will be):
https://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/43/Josei
Or look up lists of anime directed/created by women that aren't necessarily Josei. You'll probably find something good that way. Speaking of which, I've seen Thermae Romae Novae be recommended recently. And it's manga only and I haven't read it, but Dungeon Meshi is also by a woman and apparently a lot of people like it, there's little to no coomerbait, etc. These two are technically "Seinen" but as you can see, and I'm going to go a bit OT here, sometimes female mangaka publish their (very good and appealing to women) works on Seinen magazines for some reason, which is a damn shame. Another example of this is Sakamoto Desu Ga? (I think) which is very obviously female gaze and for meganefags but it's also classified as "Seinen". (That one's about high school though so you can skip it.) And finally, another anime I haven't watched but which has received plenty of positive reviews and was initially aimed at a male audience despite being written by a woman: Ascendance of a Bookworm.

I'm not recommending Shoujo because most of it is gonna have a high school student protagonist but I'm sure there must be some high quality Shoujo series that have nothing to do with school.
Also you'll probably like The Way of the Househusband. Preferably the manga, not many liked the anime.

>>25183
Yes, series created by women, mostly. Demon Slayer is the average shonenshit, if you want competent or non-retarded female characters you must avoid shonenshit (though there are a couple of exceptions). Non-sexualized female characters are even rarer however.

>>25184
Based. She also drew the most recent manga adaptation of Arslan Senki, which has an anime version and was originally written by Yoshiki Tanaka, author of Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Though it's apparently not as good as either LoGH or FMA.

>>25186
NTA but you really shouldn't let your own interpretation of Eva or its characters be influenced by what retards on TikTok, YouTube or 4chan say because they take everything at face value and then come up with the most braindead takes.
Evangelion is a deconstruction of the mecha genre, which had been popular for a couple of decades at that point, and it was made when Hideaki Anno was going through a pretty severe depression, so that had a lot to do with the themes and messages of the plot. But not only that, it's the result of the creative input of all who worked on it, not just Anno's. Usually you'll hear that Evangelion was made as a big "fuck you" to male Japanese otaku who were obsessed with moeshit, a criticism of otaku culture, and an attempt to make those losers face their own reality, and while it's partly true that this is one of the intended messages, it's not all there is to Evangelion, although you don't need to fully understand all its subtleties to enjoy it.
All the scrotes who hate Shinji because he is "a whiny faggot" miss the point entirely. Perhaps it's because they didn't relate to him at all, and that's fine, maybe Shinji wasn't meant to represent them in particular, and that kind of male is reflected in some of the other male characters. I think everyone can relate to at least one of the characters on a very deep level, and the character you relate to changes over time as well. That's why so many zoomer women relate to Asuka so much, I think.
>Most men relate to him and most women think he's an uwu uke and ship him with the other guy.
There's nothing wrong with this. Well, I mean, those men were supposed to relate to Shinji, and there was legit gay context with Kaworu so it also makes sense that fujos, who probably don't see themselves reflected in Shinji, ship them together (and it doesn't mean that they ignore the rest of Shinji's character; I ship it too but I liked Eva for far more than that). But he does horrible things that everyone else might ignore but easily make you hate him if you're on the radfem side. Honestly you're kinda right in that most people don't see his misogyny as misogyny, but to be fair, I don't think even the writers were fully aware of it. And I'm way more worried that there are scrotes who hate Asuka so much as to wish she would be raped and killed, than about losers feeling represented in Shinji. And of course like another anon said, you're not supposed to like him, necessarily; it's an analysis of how people become isolated and bitter. The whole cast in Evangelion could be said to be unlikable in some way, even if you relate to or empathize with them. This is what so many critics of Evangelion fail to realize, these characters aren't made to be likable and this isn't a normal mecha anime with cool lore and worldbuilding where everything is clearly explained for you.

Though of course none of this means that Evangelion is not scrotey, of course it is. But at least it's one of those scrotey pieces of media that make an effort to be deep and send a good or interesting message, and make you think about yourself, so it's much better and more tolerable than the average harem action show for moids.

Anonymous 25239

>>25153
it shows how deep NGE is compared to other anime. There are very few anime with this much depth

Anonymous 25243

>>25016
>quality media like True Detective
spotted the moid

Anonymous 25244

>>25239
deep =/= good

Anonymous 25260

>>25244
but NGE is good tho

Anonymous 25263

>>24990
Yeah, that's how I feel too but I think it's more a matter of personal taste than the fact anime is shit.

For example, I've always felt attuned to stuff like the Giant Robo OVA. I understand that a lot of women on both side of the Pacific and Atlantic love that OVA too.

Anonymous 25271

>>25239
And you really don't need Eva analysis video #3586125 to know that. If you're going to talk about why it's deep, you should talk about it in your post, not have some youtuber say it for you.

Anonymous 25357

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Anyone here seen dream hunter rem?
I thought it was kino

Anonymous 25361

>>25181
>Everyone says this is a masterpiece but I've refused to watch it because I can't get past that little faggot choking Asuka and masturbating to her while in a comma and we're still supposed to feel sorry for him.
You haven't watched it yet are aware of events that take place in the last few episodes? Have you perhaps considered it is up to your interpretation of whether or not Shinji is a fucked up creep or not?

Anonymous 25362

>>25361
How does Shinji jerking off onto Asuka develop his character or add to the plot in any way outside of establishing him as a little creep?

Anonymous 25365

>>25181
Why do you know so much about an anime you haven't seen? You're a weirdo.
And yes, I think you're missing out.

Anonymous 25366

>>25361
Im pretty sure the evangalion creator said that the scene had nothing to do with the plot. I might be wrong though.

Anonymous 25368

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>>25366
Anno was going through some shit at the time. The scene only appears in the End of Evangelion movie, which has a ton of sexual references (lots of bagina and benis imagery, pic related). Like everything in Evangelion, it's not very clear what is part of the plot and what is Anno projecting his own troubles/trolling otaku autismos by subverting their tropes (usually in an anime a sudden boob flash would be a comedic relief scene at best, fanservice at worst, here it was thoroughly uncomfortable; a similar thing is Shinji falling on top of naked Rei in an earlier scene, for example). The movie plot deals a lot with sexual desire (Gendou and Rei) and also human reproduction and evolution. I suppose one purpose for all the sexual imagery could be making everything feel more visceral, carnal, and less tech-y metal mecha.
It could also be seen as one example of Shinji's sexual frustration and inability to deal with it, much like he is unable to deal with all other frustrations of his. Evangelion uses a lot of allegory and hyperbole to convey this (like the famous chocking scene). This forces the viewer to look at him with disgust.

Anonymous 25372

>>25362
>How does Shinji jerking off onto Asuka develop his character or add to the plot in any way outside of establishing him as a little creep?
Depends, what do you mean by "little creep"? Feels like Shinji perfectly codifies the "nice guy with the mask off" moment when he just sees Asuka as an object for sexual release, but doesn't actually have the balls to just go through with it and rape her.

It's quite the interesting thing to show how pathetic Shinji is. Here he was placed in a situation where, if he just loved Asuka, but was too awkward to show it, he could have kissed her. That would certainly be creepy, but at least I could read it as affection. If he was a belligerent antagonistic entitled male, one who really wanted Asuka that much sexually, he could have just raped her right then and there.

But he chooses neither, he doesn't love Asuka, nor is he just taking what he wants, he does this incredibly pathetic and disgusting thing. It really drives home how much of a loser and fucked up Shinji is, that he can't even commit a proper a crime. Just be a loser. Really it's just an incredibly visual way of showing how offput Asuka is by Shinji, how offput Shinji is by Shinji.

I suppose if that just means "He is a little creep", then sure, but I always liked the juxtaposition of a quintessential castrated male being unable to deny or act on his desires next to this fucked up girl whose craving approval and validation from someone. I'm pretty sure Asuka would be less disgusted by Shinji as a person if he just outright raped her. She'd hate him more, resent him more, but I don't think she'd be the same amount of disgusted she was, especially with how her character is built up with her incredibly fucked up relationship with Kaiji.

>>25366
That just makes me question further why it would be a determining factor in whether or not you watch the show?

Anonymous 25374

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>>25372
Shinji can't love Asuka, he already loves someone else

Anonymous 25375

>>25374
That certainly doesn't stop him from being aroused by Asuka evidently.

Anonymous 25377

>>25375
Eva is pinkpilled, it knows men only use women for sex and only ever love and admire other men

Anonymous 25379

>>25365
>>Why do you know so much about an anime you haven't seen? You're a weirdo.
"So much" You mean the most memed spoilers of all time? How does that make me weird? And tbh paragraphs armchairing that stupid little faggot are the last thing I wanted so I guess I'll pass after all. I'd probably give a shit if it was about a fucked up perverted girl instead, though.

Anonymous 25381

>>25379
I'm glad we've managed to move from "one scene in a movie that isn't even in the original TV show is why I don't want to watch it" to "I can't read" instead. It doesn't really matter to me if you watch it or not, I just found it strange you based your choice off that. Now that that's resolved there's nothing interesting to talk about with you.

Anonymous 25382

>>25374
in that case you better not watch the last movie nona

Anonymous 25383

>>25382
Kekeke
The message of EVA all along was "Find a big-boobed American girl otakus, she'll fix your life"

Anonymous 25387

>>25383
megane and booba save lives

Anonymous 25390

>>25381
1. Why did you assume I even had an interest to discuss anything with you or regarding something I already decided I'm not interested in watching anyways? Get off your fucking high horse, retard.
2. You're the one who can't read if you're assuming I refuse to watch it because it makes me uncomfy or whatever. Like I said, it's the sympathetic incel trope in general I can't stand. Sorry for not seeing artistic value in women getting abused and men being portrayed as the poor wittle victims for feeling a bit bad after they abuse them.

Anonymous 25392

>>25390
>1. Why did you assume I even had an interest to discuss anything with you or regarding something I already decided I'm not interested in watching anyways?
I didn't expect you to actually respond to my post, it was mostly a dig at your logic. The fact you actually responded meant I hit a nerve though. You're allowed to not want to watch EVA for any reason. "I don't want to watch EVA because I like the color blue." Fair game, don't watch it, still retarded reasoning.
>You're the one who can't read if you're assuming I refuse to watch it because it makes me uncomfy or whatever.
I assumed you didn't want to watch it because it painted Shinji as a victim given your "incel vibes" comment. Evidently I was correct.
>Sorry for not seeing artistic value in women getting abused and men being portrayed as the poor wittle victims for feeling a bit bad after they abuse them.
You're not sorry, but again, it's fine to not watch it. Just wouldn't say the scene makes Shinji sympathetic to literally anyone. Even the moids that should theoretically sympathize with Shinji think he's a fucking loser for that scene. So I don't see where the "sympathetic" element creeps in at all to be honest.

Anonymous 25484

>>25368
that picture has nothing to do with sex you perverted freak

Anonymous 25559

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZM_zcnAhaI

new evangelion movie being released soon

Anonymous 25567

Just start to watch logh, end it and drop animeshit forever.

Anonymous 25575

is this the made in abyss discussion thread??

Why was there a child rape scene within the first minute of the new season of MIA lmao. seemed unnecessary to include

Anonymous 25578

>>25575
Why would it be unnecessary?

Anonymous 25580

>>25484
It literally does. Maybe watch the movie or practice some Google-fu before talking about things you're completely ignorant about.

Anonymous 25584

>>25575
Because Made In Abyss is a story about horrible fucking things happening to starry-eyed children. Did you think it wasn't?

Anonymous 25597

>>25582
>how far he's fallen
was he not a complete fucking loser at the beginning of the show as well?

Anonymous 25599

Older anime used to be good. A lot of it was decent. Now it's all ridiculously bad.

Anonymous 25646

>>25599
Major disagree. Aside from some famous older works (fist of the North Star, evangelion) anime is better now than it has ever been. We are in a golden age for anime, anime has a larger fan base and higher production value than ever before

Anonymous 25647

>>25646
Well it feels like it's all school related, and more repetitive. That is just my experience.

Anonymous 25648

>>25646
>anime has a larger fan base
This is not a good thing. This is why you have a dozen isekais every season and a dozen high school setting slice of life every season.
>higher production value than ever before
Not in any of the places that matter. The last season of Jojo was dogshit because of this. The Jumpin Jack Flash fight was fucking awful compared to David's earlier work.

Anonymous 25653

It's time to stop watching anime and join the world of manga.

Anonymous 25654

>>25646
What? What ones are good in the past years?

I'm a bit out of touch because I just watched Kaiba and Made in Abyss (yes, I know) recently but I haven't really been that impressed by anything recently. Not really interested in stuff like Dr. Stone, anything relating to school, isekai, etc.

Anonymous 25655

>>25654
I wish in my heart of hearts I could tell you Dorohedoro was good, but that really depends on if you like the experimental animation.

Anonymous 25658

>>25655
To be fair that's on my list of to-read mangas. Is there something wrong with it/the anime besides the animation? I am ok with experimental as long as it doesn't get too nasty.

Anonymous 25739

>>25383
Yeah I hate anno even more for that
More I hate people who bought this shit

Anonymous 25740

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>>25654
odd taxi, space dandy, houseki no kuni, osomatsu, aggretsuko, wotakoi, kakushigoto, shirobako, heike monogatari, gurazeni
ping pong, sonny boy, bokumachi, asobi asobase, pop team epic, devilman - trigger warning s c h o o l
maybe more, maybe some spokon or traditional japanese war and history stuff I don’t care for, also there are movies and I rarely watch them
anyway it depends - what do you want, what do you like
because I can unironically enjoy series like warau salesman and joshimuda, but I don’t think I would recommend it to random people

Anonymous 25743

>>25740
To be fair, many of those are getting up in the years so they don't fit anime being in a golden age now.

Other than that though I'll check out some of them. I have liked a quarter of them already (space dandy, sonny boy, houseki no kuni, etc.) so you might be onto something, anyway.

Also I did watch a few of the other school ones and I'm not sure if I liked them. For example devilman wasn't really that interesting (school or no) and was mostly a tragedy/edge fest and I vastly prefer something like Berserk's manga if I want something like that but done better.

Anonymous 25746

>>25597
He was a normal kid with daddy issues. What normal kid would be happy about having an absent dad who only pops in to tell him to get inside a giant scary war robot and fight aliens?

Anonymous 25770

You should give Jojo a chance. its pretty much the only anime I watch nowadays. I wish Berserk had an actually good adaptation.

Anonymous 26209

>>25770
I tried soo hard to give jojo a chance but the first season is literally impossible to get through

Anonymous 26214

>>26209
Same. The second part is even worse. Everyone including tons of women whose opinion I usually respect kept raving about jojo so I ended up skipping through parts to see if it actually got good eventually (redditor voice: PART SKIPPERRR!) and to me it's just a shitty teen moid show. Nonsensical plot, characters are unlikable and seem like the result of asking edgy little kids to design their idea of a Chad, author is clearly a misogynist not to mention a retard since he forgets his own plot, character's powers and personalities so much that its a running gag in the fanbase (Araki forgot)… I could go on but I just really dont see the appeal. And I gave each part a pretty good chance too. The only one I enjoyed and managed to get through fully was part 5. But of course a lot of the same retardedness from before remained and I wouldn't have considered it a good anime on its own, it was good in comparison to all that garbage beforehand. I think a lot of women just like it because it's endless yaoi and they mostly excuse the bad writing by projecting their own personalities onto characters that have none ("Giorno isn't boring because the author can't write, it's the trauma!")

Anonymous 26225

>>26214
>asking edgy little kids to design their idea of a Chad
lol
lmao

Anonymous 26226

>>26224
>Most media of any kind isn't really that good
wrong
try finding bossa nova music that doesn't relax you

literally ALL bossa nova music is pretty good, if you don't believe this try and find an example and prove me wrong

Anonymous 26244

I can't even think of any form of media that is mostly good.

Anonymous 26251

>>26244
wrong
try finding bossa nova music that doesn't relax you
literally ALL bossa nova music is pretty good, if you don't believe this try and find an example and prove me wrong

Anonymous 26377

>>25071
that pic reminded me of samurai horror tales and just as a side note, the theme for it fucking slaps

Anonymous 26422

>>24993
I really like the trains (I REALLY REALLY love trains) and also hot springs are really cool, so I guess that counts as nature. There's pretty plants there too from what Ive seen in my uni's botanic garden

Anonymous 26423

>>26422
Those are just reason for someone to be a japanophile, I am not actually one

Anonymous 26472

>>26377
Yep it's from this and they extended it to have it's own series, Mononoke.

There's actually a movie announced but I absolutely hate how modern anime looks nowadays so I can't say I'm looking forward



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