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learning japanese, i mean, trying… i was really thinking about start learning french.

Japanese. At least I was pretty seriously studying it. I haven't really been at it for years now because of focusing on other things at the moment.

>>256547
>learning japanese, i mean, trying

Don't feel bad if overwhelmed. I've studied it for over 4 years now and just could maybe, barely pass JLPT N2, studied in Yokohama for 4 months but that means nothing and there's still a ridiculously long way to go.

I've got a lot of languages I'm dabbling in, but I'm seriously going through Finnish just because it's the last one I started, and I want to say I've properly learned one. After that I'm doing Latin/French/Spanish, Chinese, or Japanese. Then maybe Russian, German, Arabic.

>>256547
>>257051
Salve Nonae! How do you learn Latin? LLPSI ?

>>256547
I study Japanese. Have been for about five year now. I’m at a pretty advanced level and hope to go to Japan next year.

i study Russian but im lazy so i pretty much only watch videos in Russian and gaslight myself into believing this is language studying

I'm learning Latin too!!! It's awesome. I'm also learning Japanese because there are so many untranslated games and VNs I want to play.

I'm studying Italian with duolingo!

>>256569
Si jamais t'a besoin d'aide, laisse-moi savoir et on pourrait pratiquer

>>260649
On est deux ici ? Ça m'étonne !

>>260761
Trop cool! T'es française j'imagine? Je suis québécoise

Swedish.

>>260766
Alors on est cousines:)

>>260766
>>260818
Ho!! Coucou les filles !! C’est rare de voir des francophones ici

>>260830
guess

>>260831
>>260832
Nta. I'm not familiar with Russian lit, is it about being able to read it in it's original language then? Does Russian translate poorly to English?

>>260834
If reading is not a hobby of yours, you might not understand. Translation are okay but they are not great, even if the translator is talented.
Russian lit is sublime. If it had to be ranked, it'd be in the top 5. It seems worth it to read it as it was written.
I do not regret learning English to read Shakespeare and co, and I keep learning other languages to read other books. It's one of the many reason one might learn a foreign language.

>>260835
Interesting, thanks. I do like reading but only non-fiction, so I guess that's different.

>>260835
>gravity's rainbow
Can't get over the literal shit eating in that book

>>260855
What's so good about Russian literature?

>>260909
Its good.

>>260920
Russians have always been the most efficient at oppressing themselves first and foremost. They went from feudalism straight to the absolute monarchy and kept that shit all the way to 20th century. And when it ended, they chose a system that has effectively murdered millions of them in a couple of decades. When American university students were protesting Vietnam, the Russian ones were enduring mandatory labor. Rampant censorship throughout most of Russia's history.

>>257051
Is it just about the fun of learning a language for you since you want to learn so many seemingly random ones?

I am learning Japanese and I have always been very annoyed by women who claim they study 6 languages at once and are very braggy about it. Every single one of them in my life wasn't actually able to speak most, if any, of those languages on a level past what Duolingo can teach you. Especially ones who are native English speakers.

>>260918
The shit eating is really explicit too, clearly he has a fetish for actually devouring shit

>>260936
Well, the trauma of war has very clearly dehumanized and made you a hate-filled husk of a person. I'm sorry to hear that and I hope it's not permanent and goes away once the war is over.

Trying russian and going insane after two chapters about the genitive case.

im primarily trying to learn french and secondarily trying to learn portuguese. i think i could learn portuguese a bit faster since i already speak fluent latam spanish. any tips/resources from frenchies or portuges/brasileiros is welcome, i am fascinated by your language and would love to be able to speak it fluently :]

>>261618
Tfw I was dragged to a class growing up and only remember that the cyrillic b/B is a v sound

>>261620
Don't know if AMV is your kind of thing, but I like those made by Ogeid, it can also be useful for finding other songs you may enjoy.

>>261618
If this will cheer you, Russians themselves make a lot of mistakes while declining nouns in genitive case

I'm seriously impressed with you all trying to learn super difficult languages like Russian and Japanese. I'm learning a language too but it's in the same family as my native language so there's some familiarity with vocab and the way sentences are built. I'd scratch my brains out if I had to learn something wildly different like Russian.

Do any nonas have experience with learning language from the same language family as your native? For what pitfalls and mistakes should I look out? (to be more precise, I'm Russian wanting to learn Polish, don't ask why, I just think it is cool language)

>>261685
I don't have experience with that language family but I've learned two other languages in my native language family and I think the easiest pitfall is words that look similiar to a word in your native language but have completely different meanings. Nothing major though.

trying to learn russian but i'm too self-conscious to find anyone to practice speaking with although i understand a reasonable amount by now. there's nowhere to take lessons where i live either. so i'm just focusing on listening/reading for now, which is okay.

>>261709
I‘m rus lang native speaker; learn eng, cz, gr, ja langs, but may read/write/say only eng, rus and ukr

Trying to study Russian as well
tbh I am surprised to see that so many study Russian here.

Besides that I'm studying Swedish but it's not my choice. Thanks to Finland we have to study it and pass test at university to even graduate lol.

I am learning Zulu because it is the language my family speaks

I wanted to read Ningen Shikkaku in its original Japanese last year, but kinda never really got around to doing it.
I promise to finish it within the next month or so.

I've been learning Brazilian Portuguese, I'm ok at writing but terrible at speaking.

I am kinda wondering rn what’s the best approach to studying languages. I prefer just immersing myself. I can’t stand reading textbooks, I’d rather jump straight into a real book.
But that is a very taxing way of studying. Not something I can do stably. Maybe I should read some actual textbook material during downtime…

Reading the hyperpolyglot handbook for gigachads as we speak.

I'm learning lesothan

So many great posts lost to retarded jannys antics. Press F.

>>322052
Why did you block me?

>>322053
I did not block anyone nor did I add anyone anywhere yet

Back to the topic.
I am going to my TL's speaking club next week. Very exciting, even though I can't speak a lick of this. I will bring my notebook and my learning material, so we may be able to discuss it.

I wonder if there's a Japanese speaking events here. I know there's a genuine Japanese guy teaching Japanese in Belarus of all places. There's probably something like that here too.

Regina Fischer is said to have spoken 6-8 languages fluently. I will kill myself if I don't know as many by 30.

Latin, Russian, and Ancient Greek. I'm actually thinking about writing a textbook in Latin one day. It's hard, but I love it so much.

>>322119
BASED
I was actually thinking of dabbling in Ancient Greek because of the Bible (also because it'd be funny to visit greece and talk to everyone in ancient greek)

I was actually trying to read hebrew too with a dictionary but the lack of vowels was fucking with me too much

It's actually a bit reassuring that many nonas are learning russian, I tried via duolingo back in 2021 but dropped it, now giving it a go again.
Aside from that app I've been watching movies in russian to practice my listening. What do other nonas use to improve your russian reading? What about the writing?

>>322184
>the russian empire is about to collapse but i think i'll learn russian
genius

>>322184
Check out pa-russki.com for short stories. For writing, I just write in my journal. I also have a couple buddies who speak the language, but I wouldn't recommend that until you're intermediate

>>322184
>>322186
Hey, Russian was the first language I ever learned and I did that as a toddler. Feel free to ask any questions about it as I am an expert on this language!

I am in a speaking club meeting for Japanese right now and every other person there says they're a software developer lmao

>>256547
I am learning Spanish, I even lived abroad for a few months and took classes. Unfortunately my level has seriously fallen since then, and I struggle even to form an oral sentence now. But I can read & write pretty ok. I don’t know how to keep up my learning now I am out of school… does anyone have advice? I watch some Spanish youtube sketch comedy (Vaya Semanita), but the fact is I don’t love the language or any of the cultures. I want to change. I want to love it. I just need to find something I love. I’m trying to find 70s Spanish movies to get in to.

>>322197
The reasons for maintaining or learning a language are always highly personal, so it's you who can discover them. But let's say for example, you can just try watching youtube videos on any topic you like. Really all you have to do is just use it the same way you would English, maybe make notes, google stuff, visit Spanish sites.

>>322197
Watch Agua para chocolate…

I hate this shitty yukkuri voice why the fuck is Japanese tts so garbage

another neat trick

do you have any songs you like so much you want to sing along to the lyrics
i like to imagine what would a song like this be in another language
well, that makes learning new expressions so much easier AND while singing along in you're head you are going to repeat them a lot…

so i think it's cool

made a hellotalki pls subscirbe https://hellotalk.com/u/b_annette64

I want to learn another language but I just don't know which. I already am fluent in English and Spanish but I'd like to learn something else. I'm just indecisive and can't find anything that calls to me.

I think I realized why 「のです」is “explanatory”. I think it’s like someone putting emphasis on “is”/“are” in an English sentence, I think?
Grammar “explanations” in English really fucking suck

>>322190
Thanks!
I would like to know if you reccommend buying a dictionary? Is it easier to learn it as an english speaker, or maybe its more similar to spanish (my native language)? How could I maintain it? Are there any sites I should visit, be it for learning or just to be more exposed to the language? What's the hardest thing about it, something I should have in my notes? What's good for practicing speaking if I don't know anyone who speaks russian?

>>323227
>I would like to know if you reccommend buying a dictionary?
Entirely dependent on whether you enjoy offline study or not, im sure most of the dictionaries have been digitized. Plus some online sites may automatically detect the word form for you.

> Is it easier to learn it as an english speaker, or maybe its more similar to spanish (my native language)?
Definitely Spanish. The concept of verb conjugation and grammatical gender should be familiar I think, plus Spanish sounds more similar to Russian than English, so easier time speaking.
> How could I maintain it?
I’ve been thinking just recently how I don’t get the concept of maintaining a language, to be fair. There should be tons of content for you to simple consume, literally just do anything in your language of choice.
I barely did any maintaining of Japanese outside of constantly asking myself how would I say this or that in Japanese. And the occasional anime pics with Japanese text. Which may count as maintaining actually idk.
> Are there any sites I should visit, be it for learning or just to be more exposed to the language?
I wouldn’t know about these sites, but im firmly in the input camp anyway. I was just reading a lot of stuff and ankiing intensely, though most people may find that intimidating. Language simp suggests starting with watching videos with subs right of the bat and look up frequent words, I kinda agree and it’s what I’ve been doing all this time.
> What's the hardest thing about it, something I should have in my notes?
Hmm maybe noun forms? How verbs change forms?(поговорить, заговорить, договорить, сговориться…)
The most difficult thing about languages like this is that sometimes it’s hard to look up the original form of a word in a dictionary.
> What's good for practicing speaking if I don't know anyone who speaks russian?
I’ve been using hellotalk and it’s nice, I just blog (shitpost) in Japanese and speak to the occasional Japanese person in dms. Also there’s probably a lot of discord groups for Russian out there. Also here’s me.

These questions are mostly oriented about learning Russian as a foreign question, I was thinking more along the lines of grammar and stuff

Kid cartoons are pretty popular for the goal of getting started with the target language btw

Oh and I guess some words maybe intimidating af
> здравствуйте
Like wtf is this. This is like greetings or a more formal “hello” you’d use with a teacher, with clients or while buying services and goods.

>>323230
Thank you so so much!! Someone else also reccommended anki to me, so maybe I should check that out. I really can't ask about grammar right now since my level is so basic, duolingo has been useless… It only taught me like 20 words.
Also yes, words like that are scary and take me a little longer to even read out loud lol

>>323231
If you do anki you could try a deck that's 1000 most common words in Spanish. 70% of the words you'll encounter are going to be in that list, something like that.

Duolingo is probably supplementary more than anything, like anki. There was some dude on youtube who studied German on duolingo for like 4 years, and while he managed himself just fine in Germany when he arrived, his German was pretty weak for 4 years of study. It's ok to memorize phrases probably.

>The Discovery of the Sperm Whale Phonetic Alphabet
New target language goals, right after the Adamic language

Imagine making contact with another species after all this time and finding out they named your kind after cum

>>323289
What if they love cum

>>323354
Some humans love cum but im sure they’d be surprised all the same

>>323355
why would they be surprised? they literally look like cum