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I'm looking to start one right now. Reply to this if youre interested and in montreal and ill give my discord

>Why
To stand against political polarisation on social media and to honour the ideals of riot grrrl by being a woman and doing something meaningful because society wont stop me anymore
>What would i contribute
Vocals, lyrics, organising events, ideology, making zines and bringing people together
Whats stopping me
>Finding the right people, and my fear of failure and embarrassing myself

I wanted to be in a band at one time but not a punk band specifically. I play piano so that likely wouldn't pan out.
It's a shitty time to be into punk. It's all lame now and your audience is cultivated based on what your politics are not how your music sounds. the music scene as a whole is rife with snobs and punks are the worst. They're unserious in their musicianship but think their lame ideology is the most groundbreaking shit ever.

>>260442

Punk could use some innovation. I'm sure you could do some cool shit with a piano in a punk band, that is a thing.

Punk, stripped to bare bones, is anti-establishment. As a result, it is a movement that should be perpetually questioning itself.

But people are nostalgia-simping neanderthals who can't handle thinking for themselves. It's like, "I want to be exactly like Kurt Cobain!!". "Punks are anti-nazi! Fuck nazis! You're a nazi if you disagree with me!"

At the time punk was born, it was subversive; dressing like a slut in fishnets regardless of your gender, making your hair retarded, making your own clothes, were all unheard of.
It isn't socially deviant to do this anymore. 'Punk' or 'alt' fashion isn't the minority it used to be; now it's actually quite trendy. It's encouraged. That isn't punk. Part of punk is allowing yourself to be a punching bag for the sake of future generations.

It breaks my heart to see people applying old rules to a new age, to be completely un self-aware, and to think they're groundbreaking political activists. Just a collective delusion.

>>260442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-g02aE1oh0&list=OLAK5uy_mwZ73dtIkBe4HqehCjXBQXIG3k6fp11Vg&ab_channel=Midori-Topic

Aggressive music with piano

>>260426
I want to be in a any type of girl band
>>What's stopping you?
should've learned an instrument when I was younger but I didn't

>>260445

Kim Gordon learned how to play guitar when she was 27 years old, and Sonic Youth got HUGE. Not knowing how to traditionally play your instrument gives you a unique sound. The Slits, Sex Pistols, they didn't know how to play their instruments but they had points to make, things they stood for, things to say.

To perform, you just have to be captivating. Not necessarily technically skilled.

>>260445

What instrument do you wish you could play?

>>260446
>Not knowing how to traditionally play your instrument gives you a unique sound
This makes me feel less bad about not starting as a teen or a child, thanks nona
>>260447
drums but they look too difficult to be self-taught

>>260449
>drums look to difficult to be self-taught
That's not necessarily true. I'm no expert at drums but I can jam with people and not ruin everything. I started by getting drunk in my friend's basement; we had 1 snare and a tinfoil cymbal. Just the snare and the tiniest little bitch cymbal made of aluminium from the dollar store (setup similar to attached image).

I played on that (sounded like shit but it was so much fun no one cared) until the friend started buying more pieces to the kit. I learned piece by piece of the kit. Now when I play drums around actually trained drummers they're surprisingly not put off. They've told me, "huh, not bad, I wouldn't think to play it like that". I am not particularly good, but I can keep a beat and make it interesting. That's really all you need to start a band.

I feel you, I've always wanted to be the drummer. But all my friends were men who played guitar and bass one of their dads was an expert drummer so they had no use for me.

It's way more punk to have the courage to suck and improve by practicing and developing your own sound.

And there are so many resources online, you have everything you need. Don't be afraid nona, you'll be ahead of 80% of people by having the balls to try… and that's assuming this is a matter of getting ahead..

kinda wanna go to bandoneon/accordion classes but i can't be too sure which would be correct.
I want to sound like something somber, soothing, and enthralling at the same time.

>>260450
That's cool anon. I have no patience for it now but if I could go back in time, I'd want to play drums. Instead I played keyboard throughout my teens and didn't really learn much looking back lmao.

I used to like punk quite a lot, but being on the NYHC scene and knowing irl punks really deterred me from it.

Many of them are incredibly pro-trans and extremely out of touch leftists. Almost all of them came from middle class families but pretended to be poor in the most flagrant and borderline offensive manner that was insulting to every actual individual who came from a low-income family who was on the scene.

It also held many people back. Certain kids who had wealthy families and would be able to attend college and find a good job chose to work dead-end jobs in fear of looking like a poser in front of their equally narcissistic friends. One friend , who was a former honor student and TIM, even told me that he purposely flunked school to “rebel” although he was extremely intelligent and could’ve become successful. Now he is stuck working dead-end jobs, all to impress these conformist -disguised-as-nonconformist individuals and to fit into a certain aesthetic of “punk working class” poverty.

I was even embarrassed to admit that I’d gotten into a good college while I was friends with these individuals. Whenever I did, I was not met with praise, but with backhanded compliments and eye rolls as if they believed that I was a sellout.

Oh well. I wish that punk actually achieved its goal, which was enhancing oppressed individuals rather than keeping them down. I still love the music, but many use it as an aesthetic to adhere to and treat it as a god to bow down to.

>>260530
Samefag but the point that I am trying to make/tl;dr is that purposely holding yourself back for the purpose of fitting yourself into the “punk” aesthetic and lifestyle when you could otherwise afford to advance in life is inconceivably stupid and conformist. Ironic in a scene that prides itself in being nonconformist, innit?

Tbh, the punk scene reminded me of a recreation of the popular group in school—everyone had to follow the unwritten social rules or else you’d be shunned, and the most successful people in the scene were the ones who were the most attractive, most charismatic, and the most antisocial and narcissistic—just like in every other social group known to man.

I’d be in a punk band if punks were more accepting and actually cared about getting important, culturally relevant messages out there that may offend some people, which was the entire point of punk music in the first place. I’d make anti-porn punk, TERF punk, and, in general, porn that legitimately encouraged women to be individuals and to live their own lives outside from men and male pleasure.

Sad thread. It’s disappointing to see how punk has become what it set out to rebel against.

Back in the day, punk was essentially just a DIY music movement, essentially just encouraging everyone to start a band. Punk’s ‘sound’ was YOUR sound. That’s how bands like The Minutemen and Beat Happening could be equally punk, they were doing THEIR personal style, regardless of good or bad musicianship.

Check out Azerrad’s ‘Our Band Could Be Your Life’

“I MUST CREATE A SYSTEM OR BE ENSLAVED BY ANOTHER MAN’S.”
—WILLIAM BLAKE”

>>260544
Thank you for acknowledging this! I honestly really despise the normal people who appropriated things that were originally for weird, outcasted, or oppressed people who didn’t really fit in and made it a beauty contest.

The whole point of punk is artistic expression of anger against society as a whole. The college douchebag they/thems do not realize it, but they ARE the the society that punk strives to free people from. I think it is a form of virtue signaling, tbh. Punk is the perfect space for a bad person to mask their sociopathic (or simply just downright rude and mean) traits under the guise of supporting a good cause. It also takes the burden off of them even have to attempt being a good person simply because of their views.

There are so many punks that I’ve met that had the nastiest attitudes. If you’re going to be a trans rights activist, why not start by being kind to others around you? I think it’s easier for them to lie about supporting these large-scale movements that have absolutely no impact on their day-to-day life and others in it than to actually be kind to the person standing in front of them.

All of it is for clout, though. They don’t have any real views. See how any of them change once they get cancelled because of personal beef (for example, one girl stole another girl’s man or a guy didn’t want to commit to a girl who had feelings for him) and the canceller has to legitimize their dislike of the cancellee and publicly execute them/get their revenge by them by making a social media post accusing them of being a racist, a homophobe, or a rapist. Unfortunately, the person cancelled, in my experience, tends to be an autistic person who has trouble with appropriate social communication.

I’m not even exaggerating. I’ve seen all of this on the punk scene in real time in a space where I thought I’d get away from all of this conformist, follower bullshit and find other weirdos like me to hang around with who share similar interests.

>>260530
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>>260544
>>260547

I've witnessed all of this degeneracy in my scene for the past 2 years, and stood by helplessly watching it unfold.

This mindless trans activism is majorly built on emotion, mischannelled angst, and a desire to conform and be a part of a group, all facilitated by the internet. They view their parents as "the establishment", so by pissing them off they believe it's revolution.

Musically, a majority of bands in my scene strive to sound the same; feedback-riddled, talking/yelling incomprehensible lyrics; you won't be perceived as punk if you don't sound like that. They say PC bullshit into the mic between songs as feedback drones on, just waiting for the crowd to cheer them on. "Everyone deserves to exist, no matter who you are!" No fucking shit, you just said that to feel the rush of others agreeing with you.

True rebellion takes courage. You have to accept people hating you and wanting to hurt you for what you believe in.
Kathleen Hanna had guys whipping their chains at her head and throwing bottles onstage for what she was doing. But people forget about that part; rebellion is only considered cool when it works in the end. The world is too afraid to try, to risk being alone, not to have the comfy delusional bubble of community by their side.

Problem with the internet age is that now the stakes are higher than ever before. If people hate you, you will have the force of a thousand trannies trying to ruin your life on instagram.

Not a punk band but I want to make music. But like the other said I'm old and don't really know how to play anything. But this year I'm just going to sit down and try harder

>>260426
>what's stopping you
Punk sucks. I like medieval sounds. Ican play somewhat ok, but it's hard for me to step out of my shell. Also Brisbane kinda sucks for playing the music I make

>>260576

You should record your medieval music and post it, nona. Someone in this world is longing for a more medieval sound and what's out there isn't satisfying their desires. You'll be doing someone a favour by sharing your niche

>>260444
This is pretty good but not the kind of music I would want to make.

>>260591
Indeed, cheers nona. I'm hoping to get a shwarm and perhaps some bagpipes this year. Monetarily it will be hard. Talent-wise… I assume it will be relatively easy for me to pick up.

>>260639
Please post your bagpipe demos in this thread

How fun would it be for all of us to remotely work on a track? We post in stages and add something one by one until it's done

The Sound of Crystal Cafe

>>260641
Not yet! But the fingering will not be too difficult to pick up; I can practice it on a recorder while squeezing a pillow until I can source a set of bona fide pipes. I have heard a lot of this and that about the difficulty in sustaining sufficient elbow grease, but that sounds like a 'bag' of hot air (fr fr no pipes). 2024 will be the year of pipes for me!

>>260643
I'm turning 27 this year nona; although I have a couple of instruments under my belt I'm not at all experienced in bagpipes. Still, it is an instrument I've been thinking of more and more… better late than never, both for me and you