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>>266059
How would you qualify people that are virgins but also in a relationship? I just don't have sex with my bf. It's been about 6 years now.

>>266059
"Virgin by choice" here. I really don't want to have sex before marriage, and my reasoning is twofold.
First, the idea that I have sex with some moid, and then he leaves me and never speaks with me again, is so absolutely disgusting to me. I hate moids so much, and to me it's so repulsive to be touched by one, especially when it gives the moid perverted pleasure. What I fear is that I may have a lapse of judgement, and think some moid is better than the rest and that he loves me, and let him have sex with me, only it turns out he's as filthy as every other moid, and then he leaves me because he never truly loved me, and then I have to live with retroactive repulsion. The only way to defend against this is to not have sex before marriage, because then there's that promise of commitment. Of course, it's not a perfect defense, since he may turn out to be a scumbag anyways, but most likely by the time we get married I would be able to see if he's good or not.
Second, I want a virgin husband. I don't want to love and devote my life to some stupid moid who goes around fucking other women. Now, obviously, I can't demand a virgin unless I were a virgin myself. Also, I'm sure virgin men, who aren't disgusting incels but are actually decent and choose to be virgins, would also want a virgin.

>>266060
I'm relieved to read this because moids usually demand sex in relationship because it's "human nature"

>>266059
Virgin by choice and I don't plan to ever fuck in the future so I'm not holding out for marriage or anything I'm just really serious about hating men

>>266062
He's the only moid I've ever encountered to be like that. He doesn't care about sex and doesn't understand why it's so glorified. I don't know why he ended up like this but he spent most of his childhood/teenagehood reading books and away from the internet.

I was harassed and ostracized throughout my teens and early 20s, emotionally and verbally abused by men I dated, for being a virgin. But looking back on it maybe it was my choice not to give into that peer pressure. I only plan on losing my virginity in marriage, which is impossible because all moids are sex pests and scrotes only want virgins when they're children.

I wanted to save it for when I got a bf but I didn't find one until last year. It's an ldr though so I'm still a virgin at 26. I wouldn't say I'm a virgin by choice really either though, cuz I want sex but just like loving sex in the confines of a relationship.

>>266063
Same. I am virgin for life. Even tho msny people say you are too young to know I think 99% I won't change my mind.

>>266066
>He doesn't care about sex and doesn't understand why it's so glorified
Nona, I don't think I can believe that.

I'm a virgin by choice too. I don't think sex will be enjoyable for me unless it's with someone I love and I've never met a man who I think I could fall in love with so…

>>266092
That's okay. I'm not trying to convince anyone. Moids like these have 0.0009% spawn rate.

>>266097
He is secretly gay and fucking dudes behind your back, lol.

>>266099
Not the same anon, but shit I think you're probably right kek

Early 30s and khhv. I'm not sure about the "by choice", since it might've been different if I experienced life up til now differently. However, I do believe that I'll remain a virgin for the rest of my life.

>>266113
>I do believe that I'll remain a virgin for the rest of my life.
You're not missing anything… Hell your life's probably more rich than mine.

>>266115
Honestly, by now sex has become an alien concept that has nothing to do with me. The fact that I'm a virgin isn't something I think or worry about. Although I doubt my life is richer than yours. I'm sure you have plenty of richness yourself.

If I deserved a relationship then I would have had it by now. If I deserved intimacy I would have had it by now too. I haven't, so I don't deserve it. I must be broken, or wrong on some fundamental level. I suppose I'll just die alone, and in some ways I've come to terms with that.

I'm waiting for marriage like many anons here, second poster mentioned being afraid of a moid abandoning you after getting pussy and I have the same fear. I don't really feel ready for PIV sex either, I've been assraped so I think that has given me a mental barrier concerning penetration sex.

>>266135
No, this is library

>>266135
Wdym? Real girls don't want to be virgin ny choice?

>>266059
I'm an early-30s khhv by choice because I hate the idea of being used. Men hug women to feel our breasts and they kiss us and then say they want oral sex. It's bizarre that they claim to love us when all they do is use.

Just turned 26, not even a conscious "choice" but I never even really wanted to actually engage with real moids. I'm a fujoshi and a yumejoshi and it honestly suffices to me. I guess I'm a sperg too so your milleage may vary.

>>266156
Same

>>266156
Bruh that's so true, the hugging thing then wanting their dick sucked, but when I say it I get called a pornsick fetishist by other women. I would dread dating men knowing the price you pay for a hug in which only truly men are held and they want that sex shit after cause unfortunately sex provides men love and hugging is not enough for them while as a woman doing one sided shit like this is a slavery so women prefer just hugging to experience a crumb of love. Men idea of love is probably being services. How can women have bfs and meet up with them knowing that they have to suck off dick when they meet

>>266059
You’re not alone, I’m a virgin by choice too. Men have made it very clear that they see sex as a way to dominate and destroy women, so I’m never going to let a man do that to me. The way they get so excited about virgins is really disturbing to me too. I was always told that when I lose my virginity it’s going to hurt and I’m going to bleed, but they think it’s exciting. I can’t help but wonder if the thought of tearing a woman apart and making her bleed is what makes it so exciting for them.

>>266300
It's not only men… Sex - seeking stimulation and as women in straight sex we have to self violate to get stimulation and the so called love and social status of a romantic relationship. Then accommodate our identity to these natural conditions and be a "pickme" "masochist" aka regular woman that fucks men. It's not something we choose to be stimulated by. It's our body that caged us like this. I just saw a moid saying that when his new gf texted him that she wants him to facefuck her, he decided to marry her and I thought.. What's the point of existing as a woman if violence in sex is natural because it's human sexual desire and this act is really so common and desired by women. that you can't sweep it off as porn influence. They do it cause it stimulates them. It's like we're supposed to give up and get abused, accommodate ourselves to liking it or be alone forever

>>266300
>The way they get so excited about virgins is really disturbing
That's mostly a 4chan thing. IRL it's fairly common for men to think virgin women are too much extra work/responsibility.

>>266313
yes, and they see virgin women as having something seriously wrong with them the older they remain that way.

>>266096
My mind can't even get into sex even tho every het woman is stimulated by the same shit in sex, its not our choice, its biology. But my mind is incompatible with this submissive receptive position, I wouldn't let go and become "mindless" to get into it. My mind would refuse, for years I wondered why and ofc since theres no sex education and other women want to murder you for naming sex for what it is and refuse to admit the submission and degradation and disgusting acts that make my stomach and throat tighten up and give me acid reflux sometimes when I think about them and feel violated and terrorized by other women doing them and oppressed by my own biology for putting me in this position, overeal I'm into being masculine and dominant which contradicts my biology and I can't get stimulation from being dominant because the female body is submissive in straight sex like to the core. So basically I'm asexual and sex terrifies me because of my mind not getting into it so how the fuck would I be able to date a moid and have sex. I would suffer so much and I still live in fear and threat of being forced. Being a virgin and sex repulsed is actually terrifying as a woman, it's hard to not despise my own biology. It took me years to notice my terror and physical reactions to certain sexual things(I never had sex) and then I tried to see if my disgust is fixable because of people's judgments and I have explored it to the core and its not. I'm just disgusted by violence while its natural so other women think im a freak because their minds see this degrading submissive shit as ok. All I ever wanted in life is to be left the fuck alone.

I'm a khv by choice, I'm 20 and I refuse to touch someone who most likely sees me as subhuman and inherently inferior. I'm not even a terminal man hater and the person I'm closest to is male (twin brother), I'm just realistic about the way men see women. Wether men say a woman is a fragile property to be cherished or a disgusting whore they can't see us as full humans. I guess if I met a nice virgin boy my age who actually shows me that he likes me as a person I would be willing to get married and then lose my virginity. But I'm sure that won't happen since I'm a sperg who doesn't go out and men like that are incredibly rare/marry early.

Not sure where I fall on this. I tried to save myself for marriage but ended up getting raped twice. I pretend I'm still a virgin but I know I'm not. Sometimes I just wish I could shoot them in the head. I think the trauma made me think I'm ace, but I'd still one day like to have someone I can trust enough to have sex with. But too bad some shitheads ruined that for me.

>>268229
Rape can't take away virginity, the same way a married woman being raped isn't adultery. So you're still a virgin.

>>266846
>men like that are incredibly rare/marry early.
Maybe if you were in your 30's, but there's actually a decent amount of zoomer moids your age that are lonely and even virgin. It's quite an epidemic actually

>>266061
>The only way to defend against this is to not have sex before marriage
moid hands typed this.

>>268643
that isn't a male position at all, most males hate women who want to wait for marriage.

>>268654
Most normie males, sure.
It's an incredibly common stance for socially retarded, chronically online moids, who would like to infiltrate a niche imageboard like cc though.

>>268658
It's an incredibly common stance for socially retarded, chronically online women also.

>>268643
It’s very common for women to believe they can protect themselves from men by making the right choices or complying with their demands.

Most other females are not Femcels and just like Larping. I've never had sex a day in my life. Some femcels even say that it doesn't count if they didn't like the boy. It's the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my entire fucking life.

At least the male wizards are more consistent with their inceldom.

>>268643
>moid calling other people moids
pls leave

>>266060
Wtf is wrong with you?

>>266099
Possibly, the more innocent explanation isthe usage of SSRIs, which can promote asexual tilt, as one of the side effects of those kind drugs.

>>266061
Good to know I’m not alone in my insecurities. Men have these rejection / abandonment insecurities too, so knowing that makes them less scary.

>>268682
Why you call other women "females"?

I'm 19, never dated or had sex, I kissed one moid last year when I was very drunk and it was my first time meeting him. I am celibate somewhat by choice but also because of my opportunities/ situation. I want my first time to be with someone I am dating and every scrote in my life has repulsed me once I have gotten to know them. I also think I'm a bit clapped which definitely hinders my options, I've been hit on once within the past year IRL and it was a 30 year old creepy scrote, I'm attractive enough online with my camera inverted but I only know of one male who has been romantically interested in me IRL my whole life.

So I'm half volcel maybe… I think a lot of other femcels are in similar circumstances (having standards and being slightly ugly)

>>266059
I don’t really consider myself to be a femcel since the word has certain connotations, so I guess I think of myself as being more of a volcel. I’m 21 years old, I’ve never been in any sort of relationship, never held anyone’s hand, never kissed, you get the idea. I’ve had crushes on men and women before but I’ve never made my feelings known. I do want companionship and romance and I like to fantasize about having a family of my own someday, but I also think that I’m not quite mentally healthy enough to have a proper relationship, at least not now. I’m kind of avoidant, definitely depressed, I have low self esteem, things like that. Relationships require a lot of communication and vulnerability, and I don’t think I can give that to someone, so I don’t try.

I think that it’s for the best that I’m single, not only to save myself from any possible pain or rejection (which I know sounds selfish but it’s true) but also because I feel that it’s an unfair burden to put on someone else, especially a romantic partner. I wouldn’t want them to feel like they have to be responsible for my happiness or mental health. It’s bound to get exhausting for them, and everyone has their own problems. They shouldn’t have to fix me, only I can fix me. The way I see it, I just want to avoid any possible pain for both parties.

im so bad at talking to men that i seriously started considering going from femcel to fem volcel lately..

>>269605
How can you be bad at talking to men? Most of the time they do all the talking anyway.

>>269606

im scared of men i feel like they all hate me bc im a girl and their energy is always off, so i never feel comfortable to act like myself around them….i just stay quiet and its bc im quiet that they dont wanna talk to me lmao plus i think most of them r a bit stupid and shallow so we rarely have anything in common.

>>269607
I think men and women naturally don't have much in common and we wouldn't even associate if we didn't want sex. Before puberty it's mostly like this, then you start getting horny and it changes. I had zero interest in boys until one day biology forced me. And now I suffer because of it.

>>269609

i agree to an extent. a few of my girl friends have genuine male friends who wouldnt try to persue them sexually or romantically. i met those guys they're actually nice but i still think we have nothing in common. and i have no idea how my friends befriended the honestly?? but yeah i feel like being attracted to men while not being platonically compatible with them is a curse. knowing i have to hang out with a guy alone in order to find a bf just makes me want one even less…