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Anonymous 310264

>Marthe Voegeli

>Swiss physician who researched male contraception


>The process was simple and effective. A man would bathe his testes in a hot bath for 45 minutes a day for 3 weeks. On the completion of the 3 weeks, a period of infertility was recorded by the volunteers.


>Different bath temperatures produced varying lengths of infertility. A bath of 116 °F (46.7 °C) would provide contraceptive protection for 6 months. A bath of 110° (43.3 °C) would provide contraception for at least 4 months.


>After fertility returned in the males, the conception of healthy offspring with normal childhood development was recorded.


>Voegeli retired from medicine in 1950 and spent the next 20 years involved in efforts to publicise the contraceptive method, which were largely ignored.


seems like a good idea, why was her research ignored?

Anonymous 310273

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Imagine you have sack of cum between your legs. It really hurts even when slightly bruised or squeezed the wrong way. Now imagine boiling them for
>45 minutes a day for 3 weeks.
Personally I would not agree to that.

Anonymous 310274

>>310273
>110° (43.3 °C)
>boiling
>>310264
To be honest, it sounds too good to be true.

Anonymous 310278

>>310274
I asked chatgpt and it says it can't be possibly very reliable (I have no one else to ask lol) and also bathing your balls for 21 days straight might require too much consistency (and a lot of people can't manage to be consistent with condoms or pills)
But there are actually a number of men practicing thermal contraception via tying their balls to the body (lol) Maybe that's a better way of doing it

Anonymous 310280

>>310264
AFAIK women weren't allowed to vote in Switzerland until the 80s. So nobody gave a fuck I'd say.

>>310273
It would be interesting what the effect would be if they only used body temperature because then moids could suck up their balls into the abdomen which shouldn't be noticable at all for them

Anonymous 310283

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>>310264
>a bath of 47°C for 45 minutes a day for 3 weeks
>why was her research ignored?
Sounds perfectly reasonable that this would be ignored. It's not exactly new information, even in the early 20th century, that male fertility is highly sensitive to temperature regulation in the testes, and scalding your body with boiling water isn't exactly viable.
A more viable alternative is prolonged and low-intensity heating, like something that results from wearing tight clothing. Making moids wear dick-binders can significantly reduce sperm count to the point of being an effective contraceptive, and I'd argue the negative health effects are far less severe than female contraceptives.

The reason the latter isn't done is because men like to push their problems onto women.

Anonymous 310284

>>310283
Well, yeah, her research did happen in the early 20th century. It's like the first proper research on the topic that proved the mechanism, which was ignored, not in the sense that people didn't start soaking for 3 weeks straight.

Anonymous 310285

>>310284
>her research did happen in the early 20th century
Yes, that's literally what I said
>It's like the first proper research on the topic
It's not. The first "modern paper" on the subject was by Moore and Quick 10.1152/ajplegacy.1924.68.1.70 but the effects of heat on spermatogenesis had been proposed and experimentally validated in the 19th century. The only thing novel about Voegeli's work is that they researched pajeet traditional baths.

Anonymous 310289

>>310285
That's a paper on guinea pig scrotum temperature under lab conditions though, not really research on human male contraception. It's not like early hormonal contraception research (like transplanting ovaries) was dismissed as being useless because "waaah it's impractical". Jesus Christ.

Anonymous 310307

>>310264
because if it is done incorrectly, or inconsistently, then you have a moid cumming in women freely because he thinks he is sterile when he isnt. I cant even remember to take my birth control every day and its a pill I swallow in two seconds are we really expecting men to take hour long testicle baths in water that is so hot I wouldn't even want to dip my foot in it, every single day? (jfc they don't recommend you set your hot tub above 40 for the sake of your health). also this whole thing is predicated on men taking baths every day which, frankly, is never going to happen.

Anonymous 310316

>>310264
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4737001/

because it caused damage to the testes not observed in the control. Saying that someone should sit in a 110-degree bath daily like its nothing is stupid. Most hot tubs cant even go above 104 because of the damage it can do to your body.

If you actually care about men using contraception that shifts the burden from women back to them, then advocate for something that isn't dumb, and if you want to mutilate men's genitals, then advocate for something more interesting/satisfying/deserved than this, ball boiling is boring.

Anonymous 310328

>>310316
Like said previously, it's not complaining about everyone not practicing bath tub contraception. Obviously you would find a way to make this safer, which right now is available in the form of thermal rings. But this is very experimental still since there's not a lot of interest in male contraception. Another one I've noticed while googling is RIGUS that was also tested on pajeets, but I don't know much about it.



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