/b/ - Random

GOOD PLACE TO VENT. I WAS AT SA WORKSHOP AND ON MY SECOND WEEK ONE OF THESE FREAKS WAS THERE. I am sick to death of people pretending this is normal. I felt so horribly uncomfortable with a man in the room and i’m sure others did too. I have since switched the charity I used but I called this out in the circle and the weirdo started arguing with me, and nobody stuck up for me. Like I get the space is not about that and I don’t want to move the focus off helping eachother but jesus christ are you just going to sit there and pretend this is okay? I’m somewhere else now with an anti trans (women only) policy but the fact these people are snaking their way into spaces of vulnerable people is making my blood boil. I felt like screaming when it happened and I feel still like screaming because no doubt he’s still there with my old group. I feel powerless about it, I hate that this is a thing at all

>>311146
This is how I feel about talking openly about being a lesbian. I'm supposed to be inclusive toward these scum, I am expected to be talking about women and trannies if I ever mention I'm a lesbian. If I exclusively point out I only like vag, I get told neovags exist. If I say I like only biological woman, I get told I'm a bigot who needs therapy. THhere are no lesbian spaces ANYWHERE that can exist openly and freely and its fucking getting to me. I feel like both my teenage and most of my adult life (Im 24) has been robbed from me because when I was a teen I thought I was trans for being GNC while a lesbian, wasting my time in fear mongering spaces during the last few years where lesbians had their own spaces. Then when I became 18, it was too late. All spaces meant for homosexual women were taken over by pickmes and trannies.

I see men have spaces for themselves everywhere and its getting me, I would be lying if this shit didnt make me wanna start on a manifesto. I am tired of it. I am tired of it bleeding out into the real world to the point I literally cant escape it. They call us obsessed yet even though they colonized every space possible both online and offline, they still complain. They are fucking roaches. I am denied a community. I would rather live in a world back in the 1970s where everyone was homophobic than exist right now because at least the homophobes didn't wear my identity like a skinsuit and marginalize us in our own fucking community.

The whole concept in itself is absurd, I cant even watch a video about a pedophile with every textbook AGP behavior imaginable who used to a normal dude most of his life without the people bending backwards to use "she/her" pronouns because he calls himself a girl because it is quite literally a fetish, as he calls himself a lesbian too.

If I dont get with a woman sexually soon I am going to end up in prison with multiple life sentences. I just want a community. Even the people on here are mostly straight. I just want to express myself, my sexuality, freely. Its okay for these people to talk about literal incest and shit but God forbid a woman likes only other women in a sexual manner because both sides seem to fucking hate that. Fuck humanity.

>>311150
igy babe. it’s the obsessed thing that pisses me off the most about them. they aggressively and obnoxiously insert themselves into every space they can, totally overrun it and stop any criticism of themselves by bullying or outright hate until everyone is forced to play pretend. it’s not just that I find dudes in drag visually / socially gross, it’s how fastidious they are in invading and overtaking any fucking place online and now IRL. I mostly grew up on the internet in a lot of male dominated spaces and so I always had this attitude that I should not disparage all men but the freaky in your face bullying these people accomplish their fake acceptance with is just so masculine in the most intimidating and frustrating way possible. like how fucking dare you act like that, target me, target my spaces ON PURPOSE and then call me obsessed for not liking it. delusional evil fucking people.

I sympathise with your plight too. Until recently I have struggled forming friendships with other women and was always boxed out I felt when it came to having a sort of social web for support and i’ve been isolated. Idk if i’d call myself lesbian, but I have had a couple of strong infatuations toward other women before. It’s very hard to navigate and one of them I suppose I freaked out a bit and it sort of ruined our friendship. I don’t know how to navigate my feelings on it and it doesn’t help when half the spaces for lesbians are increasingly filled with men or other genres of gender non conforming whatevers. I sympathise with your frustration even if my situation isn’t exactly the same

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1mi31s2/ms_apologises_over_trans_employee_in_bra/

Sorry if this is rage bait but look at the comments defending a tranny trying to fit a young girls bra at a supermarket. This infuriates me so much.

If you love freedom, you might wonder if you should spend your life savings to fight for freedom.

You might wonder if your effort would do any good.

You might ask yourself if Americans deserve to be saved.

You might wonder if surrender is the only answer to tyranny.

>>311146
>I WAS AT SA WORKSHOP AND ON MY SECOND WEEK ONE OF THESE FREAKS WAS THERE
He must have thought it was an instructional workshop.

>>311150
>If I dont get with a woman sexually soon I am going to end up in prison with multiple life sentences.
Ok incel.

>>311146
When I have the displeasure of encountering a beast like this in places, I make a point of acting even more delicate and wearing flowery dresses, and always ignoring them of course, just to remind them that he is nothing more than a pig in a dress and that he is horrible and embarrassing, I can already imagine the idiot making a very sad post on reddit about how he saw the cis woman in a dress and felt like crying

You know the US is doomed when Americans would rather attack those who defend freedom instead of criticizing the government that is enslaving them.

>>313485
How tf is anyone enslaved?

>>312232
You sound like a middle school bully that never grew up

>>313738
>slavery in the usa
For profit prisons aren't the same as cattle slavery for sure, but not every kind of forced labour is the same after all. Some people are also cynical enough about the economy to describe labouring for someone else's profit wage slavery, but I think that's a bit much, even if you're in a poor country that cannot afford to provide tax paying citizens with medical care and the basics they need to survive. First world countries can afford to do this. Not the US though I guess, so uh idk noona, I'm no expert on these matters, economy sucks rn and there are a lot of homeless people in the US and homelessness is quite criminalised so it's kind of a pipeline towards prison too.
When people talk about modern slavery in the US, it's not really about the everyday work exploitation or wage theft, it's really about prison labour, the 13th amendment and mass incarcerations (the prison population in the usa is huuge compared to other countries').
Stuff like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_States
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/13/1210564359/slavery-prison-forced-labor-movement
You can find more information and entire documentaries about it with a quick search if you're curious about it

>>313744
Sorry, I just saw that question and thought I'd answer, I didn't really check the thread topic, sorry for getting off topic.
I think this poster >>313485 might be the same person or bot who's just posting random stuff about America under random posts. It's kinda distracting.
>>311105
I personally don't really mind trans people tbh, it's not like there's that many. They're just a drop in the bucket of women being half the population (more than half in my country).
People will complain about one trans woman being present when there are 9 cis women literally right there, as if that one person's presence ruins everything.
But I also don't spend much time in women-only spaces (except for women-only altchans (moids evidently can't be trusted with free speech)) and I don't mind going to mixed saunas naked either. Even in bathroom situations, I couldn't care less because I won't hesitate to go to the men's bathroom if the line in front of the women's one is too long. That reminds me that I did run into a trans woman in a bathroom before, I just noticed she was tall, didn't know she was trans until later when we were introduced by a mutual friend (turns out I met her once when she was a man lol). The only time I was really bothered by something getting into the bathroom was when I saw a cockroach, I like let out an involuntary scream (first cockroach I've seen in my life) and a male cleaning staff member came to check which is the only time I've seen an obvious man in the women's bathroom and I was pretty glad to have him there.
Anyway, I mean that I'll probably not be in a situation where I'd be upset about the presence of some rare transer but I think it makes sense to have some trans-exclusionary women's spaces so women who have genuine phobia of men or something don't have to deal with this stuff. Because like this, you have to exclude either terfs or tranners and I think both should have spaces where they're free of harassment. Also, lesbian dating apps should let you select "cis" as an option so you can filter for cis only results and stuff, right. I think. I don't really use dating apps tbh, I like to meet people in person first.
>>311105
>That post
Well, if someone gets clocked in a damn spa, that's really on them, isn't it. But I stand by my point, if we just provided separate spaces for women who welcome trans people and women who don't, there'd also be less people trying to clock and harass cis women for looking too masculine or something and I think there are a lot more of those than there are trans women (I know a cis woman who's like almost 2 metres tall and someone tried to "clock" her, she's a mum, like wtf)

>transgenders
>transracials
genuinely all the same thing to me, it's funny how the same crowd that says "gender and race are social constructs" gets their panties in a twist when someone spends a fortune to look like a Korean (like Oil London)

>>313747
Quantity doesn’t really matter when they’re extremely vocal and influential. Men (and they are men, PLEASE stop pretending otherwise) including themselves in the definition of woman to speak on their behalf only detracts from women’s rights. They SA women at a greater rate per capita than men- I don’t care if you personally never experienced that, it happening once is enough. Think about it this way, is it worth one woman or girl getting molested, or a few (as you’ve said) men’s feelings being hurt because they can’t force themselves into a space they shouldn’t even be in? If you think the latter matters more, you are advocating against women

>>313751
>They SA women at a greater rate per capita than men
>They
Who, you mean violent offenders who are in prison?
Doesn't matter if you're sensitive about trans women, they also need spaces due to very evident victimisation https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ncvs-trans-press-release/
If you don't wanna cater to that, that's your business (and no, it's not just "hurt feelings" it's actual violence, it's mostly trans men who are in the early stages of transitioning who fall victim to it but that doesn't mean trans women aren't getting targeted either).
Regardless of whether trans people can actually be counted as the gender they want to be, I don't think trans women are men nor are trans men women. Would you let a post-op testosterone jacked trans man into the women's sauna with you butt naked? Surely not, that's not a woman. Would you let a trans woman in there if she perfectly passes as a woman? You would unless you knew she's trans, then you'd throw her out too. Either way, neither of those is welcome nor safe in women's or men's spaces with trans exclusionists around, that's why I think there should be separate spaces. Spaces where you don't have to deal with trans people and spaces where they don't have to deal with you. Seems more beneficial than arguing about whether trans people are allowed to go to the spa or not.

>>313772
I don’t think massive changes in the infrastructure of every bathroom and changing room on earth needs to happen to accommodate a minority of people and their feelings… use the disabled toilet if you need to be separate from everyone else. This is an issue that is completely artificial