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gooners ruining hobby spaces Anonymous 129634

>recently join the vocaloid discord because i love music and want to make friends
>click on the profile of the head mod
>rabbit hole miku
>uh oh
>click his X
>his pinned post is a petite miku sex doll face down on his bed
>wtf
>he has 5 more sex dolls he photographs
>the rest is RTs of miku hentai, at least 20 from the past 24 hours
>wtf

I don't even want to talk in the server anymore. It grosses me out so much. Why is everyone else in that server okay with porn being linked at the top of the server? Why are they fine with the server being run by a chronic exhibitionist gooner? I hate how normalized it is, it feels so weird to be in the same space as those perverts, especially when it's borderline CP. I don't really know what to do anymore or where to go. I wish it didn't bother me so much so I could enjoy the server, but I can't change I know it's gross and wrong. Any advice?

Anonymous 129636

id leave because it would make me super uncomfortable… plus why tf would i interact with anyone who shares that typa stuff or even people who dont directly engage but still tolerate it…its weird regardless. there has got to be a normal dc server…i wish u all luck

Anonymous 129641

>>129636
Yeah, that's good advice honestly
… it just bums me out. Especially since that vocaloid server is the biggest one with 80k members. Thank you though <3

Anonymous 129642

>I hate how normalized it is, it feels so weird to be in the same space as those perverts,

find a better and safer hobby space. sometimes it only takes a few bad apples to ruin it for everyone

porn is one of the most harmful things to our society and creates zombies

Anonymous 129645

>Why are they fine with the server being run by a chronic exhibitionist gooner?

Because they're also gooners

Anonymous 129646

>>129642
That's kind of the problem, porn has zombified the majority of people and even when enjoying something considered safe or inoffensive you still run into porn at least every now and then

I was browsing a meme subreddit about animals recently and you'd think it'd be simple animal memes but I still ran into a video although not nsfw but strongly resembling porn

Anonymous 129651

>>129646
porn has zombiefied the majority of men. they are worse than they ever have been, in part because they expect women to act like their porno movies

Anonymous 129668

gooners & coomers are an online epidemic. if you let them gain even an inch in your community, they will start attracting their kin to shit up the place too. men will find literally anything sexually arousing and churn out porn of it. then they will spam their porn claiming it’s “just some fun” until the gooners outnumber you and now it’s normalised.
if the community has any actual women in it (not troons cus they are just turbo gooners with makeup), they will condition the women into accepting disgusting porn and comments being thrown at them by calling it “compliments”. then they will compare them to other normal girls to make them feel special and boom they’re groomed.
embrace the nomadic life. find one or two good people in the den, hop out with them, start a new den, hop out once the gooners find that one too, repeat

Anonymous 129678

>>129651
it's sad because things were going good for women in the 90s-early 2000s and then when porn became normalized the little progress we made towards real feminism burned down to ashes

Anonymous 129679

>>129678
Onlyfans phenomenon debunked the feminist myth that women are victims of the porn industry and were forced into it.

Anonymous 129680

>>129679
>Onlyfans phenomenon debunked the feminist myth that women are victims of the porn industry and were forced into it.

A lot of women genuinely want to become strippers, sex workers, escorts, etc. Some of them are victims, a lot of them aren't. They choose to do it for money and/or validation

Anonymous 129682

>>129679
No, it just proved that you can groom girls from a very young age to think doing sex work is good and profitable and get away with it

Anonymous 129685

>>129682
Feminists did that by inventing terms like "sex work" and promoting indiscriminate acceptance. In consequence society stopped shaming WHORES as it used to and young girls are getting the impression that prostitution is legit work and not a downward spiral to ruin.

Anonymous 129686

>>129651
They were always zombies. There is no soul behind those eyes.
>>129678
Things were never good.

>>129679
Feminism's biggest myth is that men are redeemable and could be socialized out of their sexuality with some sort of culture change, and that this would be deeper than merely conditioning them to be less open about their sexuality. That one was debunked almost out of the gate. Football team members might do the most rape per capita in colleges but you wouldn't want to be locked in an elevator with an antiporn but heterosexual male feminist either. But everywhere you look you see people clinging to the myth of male 'socialization' making them the way they are. Nobody is going to walk away from a myth just because it was completely debunked.

>>129679
No. Onlyfans rose on the promise that it is NOT conventional porn and NOTHING comparable to prostitution since she would be at most being physical with her physically present significant other, with no direct interaction with any other save through anonymized text through which she would be directly compensated. Onlyfans phenomenon proves that women are sufficiently vain as to be willing to do almost-porn and not-prostitution for money, which were already known in this sphere by virtue of cosplay scandals.

>>129682
I do not subscribe to the mind control theory of advertisement anymore. Ads do not target women due to some special vulnerability of women. Men are not immune to propaganda and women do not fold after seeing a single attractive woman enjoying a product. It is just that women are in the social position and suffer the social expectation of shopping, and in recent cultural memory even had the social expectation of mall-as-girls-hangout, which hangout millennial women are visibly nostalgic over. I also no longer subscribe to 'dumb slut' stereotypes. Bonnie Blue is probably smarter than many other equally financially successful entrepreneurs in the field of exploiting young boys' sexuality. Certainly smarter than Andrew Tate, her most direct male parallel. No one would say Andrew Tate was brainwashed into being Andrew Tate. It came naturally to him. Likewise the average Twitch streamer is not grooming Twitch-minimum-account-age-of-14-years-old boys into exchanging money for cleavage rubbing by virtue of some conspiracy. It is because she enjoys the idea of receiving money from men ten years younger than herself and finds calling teenagers "daddy" insufficiently disincentivizing versus her student loans and rent.

Anonymous 129692

>>129686
I still believe there is potential for men to be good but it has only been accessed by a few like Mr. rogers, Steve Irwin, and Bob Ross. I wish this was the norm but it’s not even close. The vast majority of men I would agree are garbage

Anonymous 129700

>Working in porn is empowering
>The patriarchy groom women to sell their bodies
There is simply many polar opposites takes in feminism.

Anonymous 129715

>>129700
Two different strains of feminism that despise each other to the death, anon. You haven't picked that up yet?

Anonymous 129727

>>129715
In that case, I can be an activist for any cause and says that it's feminism. A movement need a general direction.

Anonymous 129728

>>129727
>I can be an activist for any cause and says that it's feminism
That's pretty much what happens

Anonymous 129729

lucky-star-akira-k…

>>129700
Men need to have their sexuality controlled, women don't. Men should not have easy access to women's bodies through porn, prostitutes, social norms, etc. etc. but it's fine if people have easy access to men's body. These things need to be regulated for men, not women. The ONLY time a man should see a woman naked is if she decided to let him.

Anonymous 129736

The amount of fandom spaces I've been in that got infested with child groomers and other sexpests is insane so I feel your pain nona. Seems like almost every online group is full of these types of insane people

Anonymous 129773

>>129736
The crazy thing too is that this has always been the case, it's just got exponentially worse since I was a kid. Like I was super groomed online as a kid, surrounded by pedo lolicons, and I still managed to find fandom spaces that didn't have porn obsessed weirdos despite this. The Vocaloid fandom in particular was pretty chill when I was younger, because most people in it were kids, and kids at that time weren't as porn-obsessed (unless you were like me and groomed like crazy). Nowadays, almost any time I try to find a Vocaloid spot, it's just chock full of porn or fetish references. I've seen more weird fetish content of Miku and Teto than I have new songs in the last year.



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