Thoughts on the Joker?
Phoenix is great, the film is okay.
Joaquin Phoenix is great, but the film is overhyped.
The story is barebones, the dialogue lacks wit, the Joker is weak and childish, and the whole thing is derivative of better films.
9/10 movie. It's not a movie about incels or mass shooters, it doesn't have a very deep message, it's a character study about the Joker/Arthur, and it succeeded in doing that. If you go in expecting something else you will be disappointed. I think it will be remembered for many years to come.
it was decent. I saw it with my friend and we couldnt help but laugh at some of the more "we live in a society" moments. after it was over I heard people saying it was amazing (ironically people who were on their phones a significant amount of the time)>>5473>The story is barebones
not necessarily bad>the dialogue lacks wit
can you clarify? what most normies consider "witty" dialogue is usually corny, cringe and unnaturak>the Joker is weak and childish
thats the point…>derivative of better films
I was the one who gave it a 9/10 but I'd say his rant when we was with Murray was a bit lacklustre and clichéd. If I remember correctly Phoenix did that several times more or less improvised and the one they chose wasn't his favorite. But considering the character it wouldn't really make sense for him to go and give a witty eloquent speech when the movie made sure to tell us the whole time that he is very lame.
Do you think Phoenix surpassed Ledger?
Ledger had a better Joker to work with, Phoenix was given a lame duckling of a Joker – which was the point, yeah, but he's still weak.
It boils down to personal taste. I liked Ledger's Joker more, but I can respect someone who thinks Phoenix's performance was better.
On which stereotype(s) was Joker based on in this movie?
Arthur just needed a hug
most of the time in the Joker of the Killing Joke I think
It was okay. Didn't really get all the hype over it.
he wasn't skinny enough
I loved the moment where he spared the little person with a kiss.
how is he gonna fight batman? he's aldready in his 50's in the movie well bruce wayne is like, under ten
>trying to point out logical inconsistencies in capeshit
I almost left the theatre while watching this because I could not stand the cringe. I get that that's the whole point but it was very hard to watch
0/10 will never watch again.
The movie is not that good it would have been better if it did not have the whole super hero shit going on and was a seperate standalone film.
If I see anyone with a Joker PFP I know they are just edgy meme lord cringe faggots tbh lol/
FYI I 'm a massive loser but the film did not appeal to me because I have given up I just do not care about politics as long as I can hide away from normalfags and I feel that you have to be some angry incel to really get into the joker like some people do.
I think it's kinda funny at times