>>13239 the time VIXX got kidnapped by the president of kazakhstan's daughter is a personal favourite, I don't know if it counts as well known or less known though
>>13242 VIXX were visiting kazakhstan for a schedule, I forget if it was a festival or what, but when they got out of the airport they got into what they thought was an official van but it suddenly started driving away without their staff
it took them to meet a girl who turned out to be the president's daughter, she was a huge fan so she asked for them to be brought to her when they came to the country, but they and their staff weren't informed, she let them go after talking to them though
>>13284 some of you are like those parents who keep shoving their ugly baby in everyone’s faces. moafag get better tho, you’re still funny with your copypasta is he the first idol you ever liked? you don’t sound as annonying as the lucasfag
Thoughts about Jimincel ugly crying? It def looked legit. Seems likes Bigshit traumatised them or smth. I wonder what's going on in their meetings sometimes.
>>13292 It would be funnier if he was just a pussy, but i think there's something shady going on. I mean, not only is that guy a bag of bones, but he also seems to seriously love his fans. He never shuts up about it, it's getting weird. Bighshit must've brainwashed him or smth. Can't be healthy.
Behind the scenes was fascinating to watch this time around. Mark seems to literally get along with every single person in NCT. Low-key feel bad for Shotaro, I don't think he can speak a word of Korean yet.
>>13299 i saw some clips floating on twitter and nct is not as close as the nctfags claim, there was an entire segment where jaemin admitted he didn't have half of the members phone numbers saved in his phone
even i have random coworkers from two jobs ago saved, these guys really must not interact the way SM tries to pretend they do on the back end kek
nct fans know that they aren't close. there is a reddit thread made every other thursday on this very topic.
even in the video Jaemin didn't have Jungwoo's number and it seems like Jeno hasn't seen Kun in two years since their 2018 filming. also renjun pretending he was meeting wayv after a long time… when its pretty known that chinaline hangs out
>>13303 this wasnt even bad, he didnt make fun of stray kids, he made fun of their retarded ass fans who spam his stream asking to see an unrelated group
im glad they got called out sarcastically, the meltdown about how he's "so rude" just shows how stupid and childish they are
Fans are always going on about how they want their idols to be "genuine" and how they hate the manufactured idol personas, but the second an idol actually expresses an opinion or displays any kind of negativity fans turn on them real quick.
This is y i don't mind fake idols like Sana or Jaemin at all I'd do exact same if i was an idol.
>>13295 >but he also seems to seriously love his fans Nah he doesn't problably low key hate most of them specially the korean ones that are so demanding and entitled. Bitch just has burnout and anxiety from all the pressure and which ever other bad work consition he's under
>>13306 it's a bit crazy that all these idols that have left or want to leave jyp actually respect jyp as a person lol i get that he's not the only one making the hard decisions but he's still very much responsible for their misfortune to a good degree. Idk what goes on lol
On a side note, day6 is definetly an idol band and they're barely rock tbh they were formed through the idol trainee system and operate pretty much as such, it's just a little bit more mature than the average bg
>>13306 Jae sounds unhinhed too on this stream tbh never trust gyopos to fulfill their contracts they'll eventually have a meltdown and leaving the company. Not that I'm complaining…
I don't know what kind of beef they had but I guess this means that nct will attend MAMA this year? Last year it was just a large bts festival so I wonder how it will look if both bts and nct attend. bts is still on top so they will most likely win most of the awards again, but I'm willing to bet that sm made some kind of deal so that nct will get featured or win something.
>>13316 bad comparison because if he started talking to them like that they would 100% flip their shit as he cemented himself as ultra nice guy who panders to them
>>13314 Well I can't speak for these ppl you're talking about but personally I find extremely stupid when celebrities in general – not even just k idols – decide to clapback to comments people wouldn't have paid attention otherwise if it weren't for their response. Jae is kinda known for that because he's the type to search his name/day6 on twitter. Didn't he put some child on blast for tweeting a roloblox meme that he wasn't even originally tagged to? Lol the management is probably right about not letting him do stuff judging but how easily get pressed he gets. That's why Young K gets all the nice things
>>13319 I've never seen anyone use "sidedish", you think anyone here knows enough korean or is familiar enough with korean food to know what banchan is? >nta somehow I doubt this
>>13320 i dont know much about him so i wouldnt know, but he does seem to get triggered super easily and based on what i see on social media his entire schtick is "savage american korean kid"
>>13322 you realize korean people use this forum too right
>>13323 >you realize korean people use this forum too right again, why would you assume anyone knows what you're referring to when this is an english speaking BOARD? the majority of anons here are obviously not going to speak korean
>>13321 you should get off twitter for a bit. i always see you in here whining about how stays will become the new ratmys. did they bully you on there or something?
People tone down the infighting for today or mods will close the thread kek
>>13320 The roloblox incident was big dumb energy. Korean fans don't even like his ass and he tries to pander to them by turning on ifans who actually caped hard for him.
>>13333 Context: he was pondering livestreaming on twitch or not that day. Kfans kept telling him not to it because they're concerned over possible scandals and a little jealous too; plus they didnt want Jae to overshadow Even of Day debut. Ifans got pissed @ Kfans for scolding him and both sides were fighting each other. Jae decided to qrt the twt in the pic related hence supporting the kfans + subjecting that user to further bullying
>>13336 He's a bit lame. Someone told me that he wouldn't listen to WAP because he's a Christian boi kek yet he keeps interacting with those Twitch bimbo camgirls
>>13339 They're bimbos, but I'm attacking his hypocrisy though and not them. Boy must jerk off to those weeb types but goes on record to say he must have holy water dripping on his eyes to watch WAP
>>13313 It makes sense this year for bigger groups to attend since they're not on tour… os is anybody? Not sure if fan signs and small concerts are green lit in Japan or some SEA country but I don't think so.
>>13327 I understood "banchan" bc I know basic Korean. There's no reason to get angry and infight in this thread because you don't understand a Korean language joke. Chill or else you're going to get this thread locked. >>13330 So if I understand correctly, this >>13330 is the only group that will be performing? I suppose shitizens are excited but really are sane people supposed to believe that out of the three groups SM has released teasers for, this lineup with a reject Jason Derulo song is the best that SM has got? I don't like the Dream song but it sounds the best out of the three we've heard so far. And if they want to promote NCT U specifically then isn't the other lineup for the Korn tribute song better?
I liked the formations and choreography (excluding the recycled moves from other songs) up until the chorus. How would that slow prolonged hair whipping move ever look good, even performed by an actual dance crew? I know that BP are low energy performers by default but they could have at least tried to make a choreography that didn't look so half-assed.
>>13369 Clearly we have twitterfags trying to sabotage this thread because we've been shittalking their oppars. Too bad for them we still have 94948483 image boards to keep our activities even if they succeed here
Yes, there are users going out of their way to sabotage, but I won't judge the thread based on those outliers. However there are still enough issues with regular users, so I am running out of patience and I recommend finding another board to move to so you can post links ITT. I'm not locking threads yet but I might in the future.
>>13348 I really don't understand this album, wasn't BP all point to have heavy beat drops ? They can't pull a more orignal sound, it's just half assed.
6 months? I heard it was shorter like 2-3 months like Chenle did . If it was just 3 months or something I feel bad for him, everyone else is leagues more trained in media … maybe that's why he just doesn't talk and smiles instead
he's still an "idol" imagine joining in like 3 months and then you have to gay it up for the camera and tell fans stuff like Ur my GIRlfriends i wonT date until I'm 40!
>>13419 the thing is there never will be calm discussion on lolcow, kpop inherently attracts the most rabid stans who cant tolerate anyone having a different opinion than them so infighting will always happen
lc did better solely because they had the staff to ban people quickly, but even then there were obvious trolls ban evading using vpns and such
ideally we just ignore the fucking trolls and spergs on here, but admin cant deal with it all on her own and it makes sense the other option being tossing us all out
>>13422 Who said it was about bandwidth? /kpg/ got banned for being an annoying, super high maintenence thread that no one wanted to mod. Pic related. Anyway, the last part isn't entirely the case anymore so we'll see.
No, I think its men and women from what I've gathered its a more chill community and doesn't seem to get much traffic. That specific category if for more hell like topics that might generate more controversy so really appropriate imo
>>13434 I know there's only so many formations you can break into as a group of four, but all their choreographies look the same to me. Rosé is really charming, no wonder the cameraman keeps focusing on her. And Jisoo's inability to dance is not as glaring as in HYLT.
The outfits are ugly but honestly I like the song. They suit the cliché sugary pop sound so much better than the tryhard wannabe experimental trash they were doing recently. Almost reminds me of Heartbreaker era Marina and the Diamonds in some parts.
thats a given kek, i love the absolute debaucery that happens in fanwars and im a nosy bitch, but i assume most of us are which is why we're on this forum to begin with
>>13299 shotaro isn't as ugly in motion as he seems in photos, but he just looks extremely….childlike? like it looks as though he has a 10 year old head on a grown mans body kek. usually kpop dudes heads look enormous but his looks tiny..its creeping me out a bit >pic related kek also wtf his body looks very strange here too. he looks like a mf pear
>>13451 i mean by that age people are usually fully developed no? like i personally have never seen an 18 year old dude who literally looks like an elementary aged child facially. it's strange. >>13453 >a fan badly photoshopped their own head onto a random nct member's body KEK why is this so accurate?? holy fuck. it's true though. his head just does not match his body. i think his profile is…ok….not NEARLY as bad as he looks from the front lol. also from what i've seen his dancing is really good too, maybe he will become less pear shaped with a bit of working out? hopefully? i think he also has time to grow into his face. he's weird looking but not the most offensive nct member imo kek, his proportions are just very weird
>>13455 is it really? i swear it looks like a chin implant, like yutas. i found this predebut pic and his chin doesn't look as pointy, but getting older could maybe make his bone structure more pronounced. it just looks really fake to me in motion. if that's his real jaw i'm shocked he hasn't gotten a jaw shave.
>>13456 also i really hope this is actually the same person because i think i have facial blindness and honestly i can't even tell, i put blind faith in google image search kek
>>13458 his chin and nose are big in this photo but not nearly as offensive as the first one i posted (>>13450) idk maybe it was just the angle making it look worse. he literally looks like the troll face in the first one kek. like it looks even bigger in that photo, idk if it's some kinda surgery or fillers or if his chin just got even more huge with age i think he just has the kind of face that only looks good from very specific and particular angles and a shit load of makeup/filters/perfect lighting kek
He has one of those faces that grow on you slowly. I used to think he was the ugliest in NCT Dream. Also looks way better in motion since he has big jagged features
I think it would be good to have a kpop centered image board. It would be easy to sort topics out. Like having threads just for new releases, breaking news, ssng gossip heard through the grapevine, oppa sperging, and just threads for specific groups.
>>13467 >without men Yeah I dont wanna interact with refugees from 4chan related boards We should make a female centred kpop image board with a female admin and female mods Cc but make it kpop lol
>>13469 If it's an entire board I think it would be alright, scrotes could just stick to their twice and izone threads while we continue to shit on boy groups
>>13472 Just like >>13473 said. They don't stick to their ggfagging, have you seen previous threads? They just come in here because they're bored and want to piss us off.
>>13473 yup. even gaypg on trash is infested with scrotes, some of which who even blog about jerking off to female idols. in the containment thread for bg posters kek the reasons to hate men grows ever longer ladies. i hope we can find a board to accept us soon
>>13478 like >>13465 said, but imo i wouldn't want too many different threads cos the reason why i look att cc (and lc) is bc i don't want to engage in every different social platform, i just want unbiased news in one place. also thank u sm anon for doing this
>>13472 Theyll turn every thread into a shitpost one and not contribute, all the post in the 4chan kpg is basically “female idol built for” and sometimes even pedo shit. Don’t want it, they can stay in their own image boards that allow that They were even this fucking ridiculous on moderated kpop forums, they’ll go crazy w an entire image board dedicated to kpop ffs
>>13482 4chan kpg makes me want to stick my hand in a blender, our rotation between how ugly x male popular idol is, nct, lucas, bts hate, and drama looks sane in comparison
>>13477 Anon ilu I suggest in the beginnibg just a general thread and an idol spammer one. If we get bigger maybe we could separate KPC from KPG. Maybe we could also have a thread for Dramas and Varieties.
>>13488 >a thread for Dramas and Varieties Yeah, sure. Sounds fun >>13489 Ratmy containment thread would be no problem. You guys can make whatever threads you want if you feel like the general doesn't provide what you're looking for. Does that sound good?
I'm seeing a bunch of tweets about nct not actually being flops and making sm some money. The mv views for misfit are only about 4.7 million tho so the fandom must just be really dedicated with album sales.
>>13502 BTS got an award and instead of just saying thanks they also celebrated the anniversary of the Korean war in which China happened to opposite to S.Korea, meaning they brought up China losing. Just another case of Rat thinking he needs to be nationistic big brain but this time he might really have to face the consequences, this is quite big in Mainland already.
I have no idea what's going on but I'm loving it. Looks like China is the first to say goodbye to BTS. I hope to god nationalist ass BTS offends Americans soon too. Americans pretend that they are tolerant and hate America but as soon as you say anything anti US they turn on you quick.
They aren't, I'm sure they did it on purpose. Isn't BTS's entire existence to help Korea's economy and teach everyone how Korea is the best place in the world with the most beautiful people?
>>13506 Surely they could do that in a way without mentioning sensitive topics that will piss off chinese fans? Cfans are usually the most dedicated in terms of bulk buying, their company is dumb af
>>13504 >Americans pretend that they are tolerant and hate America but as soon as you say anything anti US they turn on you quick. Lol as much as they hate they hate on it it's still their country/home so that's no surprise
>>13507 It's so easy to piss off Chinese fans though, literally mentioning China in pretty much any way that isn't completely fellating the CCP will have them running for the pitchforks
>>13511 CCP has been fostering a culture of 'the world is out to get China and it's the duty of all young Chinese to defend their country against every international slight' for the past decade or so
>>13487 didn't listen to the song, but i remember a large portion of intl fans found picrel gross considering he has known her since she was basically a kid
Exposing myself as a retard but are cfans mad because of the speech or the award itself because it's celebrating us-korea relations? i've seen two differing complaints
>>13510 Idols shouldn't be political in general imo they're basically middle school dropouts, but BTS is being used for korea propaganda
>>13521 I agree that idols really don't have the education to grasp a lot of political issues but at the same time it's incredibly difficult to always avoid politics, and stuff that seems non-political in one country may be political in another, so I don't think it's realistic to simply say 'idols shouldn't be political'
This is especially true of China, just look at the Tzuyu scandal. In Taiwan it's totally normal to see the Taiwanese flag displayed in all sorts of places, and she probably didn't even realise what a bad reaction she would get.
the chinese are always pressed about some shit. it happened before with another groups. that won't destroy their career, just like that atomic bomb t-shirt scandal didn't destroy their career in japan. they had a few TV appearances cancelled and that was it. they are too strong now, only a burning sun like scandal would weaken them
>>13523 if they are as deep as i think they might be, they definitely could be from her trainee years. i self harm and deeper cuts can take up to a year to fade like hers did.
>>13524 True, things like that can't be avoided but bts purposefully stepped into becoming political. Every time I see people wanting idols to speak up I think of tiffany
>>13524 >it's incredibly difficult to always avoid politics It really isn't, bts are unicef ambassadors and constantly flaunting their "wisdom" and love for Korea because they're greedy for even more asspats. Now Fila also deleted their stuff already.
>>13525 A shitty one but there's nobody else translating cpop stuff centkent.blogspot.com
>>13498 I knew they were going to fuck up with that award. It sounded like a super right wing and US boot-licking shit when I read its description. Congratulations I do hope it affects their new album sales just for the lul
>>13530 BTS could lose half their album sales and they'd still be selling more than any other group. At this point they could afford to pretty much say 'fuck China' straight up and honestly I kinda wish they would, if they're going to be political then go all the way.
>>13531 They definetly cant say that, you're giving too much credit while understimating China's power. Lots of brands would stop endorsing them because of Chinese consumers if they went rogue kek
>>13535 I don't think losing some brand endorsements would cripple them at all, any brand that gets the majority of its sales outside China wouldn't be bothered. The NBA is also hugely popular in China and they didn't lose much from supporting the HK protests, BTS would probably be fine too.
>>13524 Exactly. The fact that a whole ass country got mad over a 15 year old girl waving a flag says everything about their nationalism and how easy it is to begin digging a grave with them.
They're fucking dumb they didnt have to send a video for this award, it's not like it's relevant anyways… that's what u get for pandering to rich warlords
I find it highkey funny how any other topic will cause mass infighting in here but when it comes to BTS this place turns into a large prayer circle for their downfall.
>>13549 Me too, i like them but at the same time i hate. Most of it is due to the fandom's behaviour, they're really working against bts kek some members are specially annoying too like jimincel and ratmon
>>13554 as far as I'm aware, D&G are still a successful luxury brand
their China scandal (which wasn't even political, they were just straight-up insulting) mainly only hurt them in China and it didn't take that long to get over it
>>13552 Honestly, it feels like being in an abusive relationship sometimes. It's as if Bigshit tricked me into liking them and it's too hard to get out of it now. Been a fan for awhile, but i realized they're actually shady af. They lie and deceive to fill their pockets with dirty money. It's really gross if you think about it. Espeically Jimincel and Ratmon are fake af. I don't want to listen to the shit they say in interviews anymore. It's disgusting how they lure teenage girls in to join their cult.
>>13557 >pls don't say you're a jhope stan anon lmfao nah. jimbo, jhorse and rap retard are insufferable to me. i used to dislike v too but i'm starting to like him again. it's funny how he seems like he doesn't really give a fuck anymore and sometimes he doesn't even mind pretending lmao. >Also what do you see in them? i like their music and performances, especially the older albums like dark and wild and hyyh pt 2. >Their new music sounds like kids bop shit i know i have shit taste, but i like bright and fun pop like dna and dynamite. bts is the only bg i like btw, i'm more into ggs. >It wasn’t as soulless kpop in general is soulless and everyone knows that but they don't care. only bts pretends to be deep and genuine and their fans are buying that. > It's as if Bigshit tricked me into liking them and it's too hard to get out of it now. i feel like that lmao. i want to get out of this hell
>>13565 They might have taken a slight financial hit but it wasn't enough to shake them on any significant level, and they knew it. Do you really think a sports organisation would make a show of standing by their political values if they stood to lose anything serious? The NBA makes yearly revenues in the billions, a few hundred million might be a substantial amount of money in general terms but it's a loss they can easily afford. They never backtracked, and Chinese networks just the other day announced they would start airing NBA games again, so they didn't even lose that for too long.
guys… I first got into k-pop ironically and I was like "yeah they're kinda funny but I don't get why some girls find these guys so attractive"
then I started to fall down the k-pop rabbit hole and stopped lying to myself
this was years ago and k-pop boys have become one of my main bean flicking materials now, I've probably imagined fucking 2 certain guys over hundreds of times each. I know it will never ever happen in reality obviously but I just fantasize and enjoy the fanservice am I the only one who doesn't mind the mild manthottery in k-pop
>>13570 everyone on this thread is a kpop fag either they want to admit it or not. Everyone already flicked the bean thinking about a kpop boy or girl, hell my favs have been said to be ugly more than once but fuck it.
Am I the only one who thinks that the Shotaro dude looks like Kang Daniel ? He's popular in SK right, do you think SM had him in mind when casting the new nct member ?
>>13581 i used to find him ugly too, but all the spam made me think he's okay. not handsome but not ugly either. depending of the styling he can look attractive.
>>13584 there's just this shit about him sexualizing lesbians because of a shirt he wore. I don't care about him but even I find this stupid, it's just some liberal art.
>>13570 Don't feel that bad, i am literally asexual and i only like kpop because i am very lonely girl that needs friends and i use kpop groups to cope with my loneliness, now years after it i am so deep in my parasocial relationship with kpop and i am getting older so it's even harder to make friends.
Jae is such a cow. Dude is nearly 30, takes a break because uwu anxiety and then spends his day fighting preteens on twitter.
He posted a rant complaining that people don't understand his sarcasm (that's because most of your fans are literal children), then one of them replied that she's autistic and then pic related happened. That's what you get if you raise yourself a fanbase of uber snowflakes, reap what you sow.
>>13597 >>13598 i really feel like he's gotten worse lately. 3 years ago when i got into day6 he was just this fun dude interacting with his fans on twitter, now he's so different. i guess he doesn't want to be the class clown anymore, but he tries so hard to convince everyone he's smart bc he reads books but also so relatable and so socially awkward!!
>>13599 samefag sorry, but i feel like he'd be the first to leave day6. he seems so fed up of the idol rules (sometimes rightfully so, but what are you gonna do about it, it's just what it is.)
I feel like with him taking a break but still doing a bunch of solo work, now apparently creating a solo subreddit and overall just seems tired of no artistic freedom, he's going to leave and live of youtube and his remaining 4 stans
>>13599 He got worse after hanging out with retarded twitch streamers. If this bitch only tried harder socializing with normal people on the real world perharps he wouldnt be so uwu anxiety
He's so pathetic. His irrelevant ass tried to gain fans quickly by roleplaying as a woke queen but now that this is no longer fun to him he can't hold back his boomer-takes and wants out. Those little girls defending him are so brainwashed >Omg stop, he has literally crippling anxiety!!! >But dont you think abt jae's mental health? I mean it just yesterday he talked abt it, and he's cryin??? And can u guys just stop pulling him? He's crying you guys! Sorry but I don't believe "he got death threats!" claims 99% of the time.
>>13604 i know korea is a hell hole but those gyopo idols are just fucking lazy and probably feel they're culturally and morally superior to mingle with koreans. most of them don't even try to improve their Korean skills and just keep complaining about being misunderstood. 5 years is fucking enough to learn to communicate properly even if you're as dumb as a rock plus, they dont ever leave their gyopo circles, so it's their fault they never fully integrate in society. if normal people that have to move to korea are able to do it why these people aren't? they have way more opportunities of meeting interesting people too.
>>13606 It's so funny that coincidentally (or not?) all murican/canadian idols act and look like a hot mess kek (except Mark) >gyopo idols are just fucking lazy and probably feel they're culturally and morally superior to mingle with koreans. I think it's a mix of that and feeling inferior: make America great again, we're so much better and woker than those backwards 3rd worlders, but also fuck westerners, asians are culturally superior. Feeling patriotic towards two extremely polarizing countries likely isn't too healthy for your mental constitution
Eh idk Koreans aren't that welcoming of gypo, not even of Korean Americans. They basically see them as American and different. I'm not speaking from personal experience or anything I'm close to a girl on instagram who is KorAm and she moved to Korea for a job. She's basically only been able to make friends with other gypos, and Koreans who studied abroad for a long time. The reason being that she got a lot of shit from native koreans for not being able to speak korean fluently and the way she dresses ect, they even insulted her mom a bit by asking her why her mother didn't teach her korean properly. This girl is also MAJOR pretty but she did get like a free pass. sorry for the blogpost but i can understand them for clinging to each other.
>>13609 >insulted her mom that's just how koreans talk though. they'll say blunt shit all the time that'd be considered insulting from people in the west but it's not really meant that way in my experience t. lived there for 2 years
>>13608 Peniel is the only one from that group that is functional and actually is friends with Koreans and even dated Korean women. The rest including that coco girl and soobin/christine whatever remain insufferable
>>13609 i mean if we're being anecdotal I can counter with other success stories. I know it must be hard but most of it it's cause they don't even bother to try. Just like some Asian communities in murica and elsewhere prefer to keep it among themselves…but at least you can see younger people in these communities trying.
>>13621 Sm’s new girl and boy group is the only one I can think of on the top of my dome that would be selling a million up Maybe, Drippin (Infinites juniors) Itzy following short after I think groups like Txt, Ateez and Skz are not gonna last for the long run in my opinion And G-idle and Everglow would run the digital scene once the 3rd gen groups make way
>>13624 The fact that I find Jisoo to be the prettiest girgroup member and the fact that I'm immediately drawn to male jisoo. I think I've found my ideal aesthetic or something. Male Ryujin was cute too
>>13631 Wtf I literally thought they just threw a random photo of Lucas into the mix kek, who is that? >>13624 I would simp for male Sulli. Looks like a rich softboy Chinese guy who wears givenchy to go to Target
>>13624 I would simp for Sulli and Yeri so hard… >>13636 GuyU could be D.O's younger brother. >>13631 oh wow this explains why I find Yeri so pretty >>13589 Doesn't matter. He is older than me anyway and this is a bad angle. He looked cute there like other anon said.
>>13642 >arab aesthetic I wonder why GG’s like Omg, Idle, and Loona get dragged for “cultural appropriation” but it’s fine when boy groups do it lol BP got dragged for the North African Bazaar aesthetic during Lisa’s rap part in Hylt but what’s with the leniency towards Nct lol I’m fine with both taking inspo from different cultures but the kpop fandom is a lil too hypocritical
>>13644 bgs get dragged for cultural appropriation all the time tho, didn't ateez even change their title track for the last comeback because of a hairstyle lol
personally I think using random cultural elements as an aesthetic completely unrelated to anything else in the mv is kinda dumb, I remember thinking the lisa part in hylt was kinda jarring because they just seemed to be combining random elements for no reason (that kinda sums up everything about hylt imo), but the only thing I saw that actually got significant backlash was the use of the image of an indian god, if people complained about any of the other aesthetic elements it didn't generate enough backlash for me to see it
As a muzzie im pretty sure the inspo in their MV is from Islamic architecture and traditional Islamic stories (1001 nights) and so it’s not really ca but whatever I thought they were dancing on prayer rugs during their dance break but it was just Persian rugs
>>13646 What I mean is that they’re dragged for it 24/7 When was the last time you saw a BG get dragged for it in seriousness Lol it’s just a small convo “oppar it’s not ok to appropriate culture” then they go on to sperg again how they wanna suck their dick Basically they get free pass to do whatever they want and not get their career evaluated by it Bts basically did as much ca and racist shit as Mamamoo but they don’t get dragged just as much Also no Hylt MV wasn’t jarring or weird, it was literally a North African Bazaar inspo idk why u thot that
>>13640 i don't get what shotaro is doing there. did he even get any screentime? or lines? just throw him out. he stands out like someone's little brother
>>13649 Stans are always going to be biased and most bgs have way more defenders so it's always going to be harder for girl groups that are problematic. Twitter is still acting like oh my girl are the most problematic group to exist lmao. I'm surprised loona didn't get more hate for it considering they spent months dragging that girl from gidle for saying ethnic hip or whatever
>>13649 I'm not on twitter so I don't see the arguments over ca unless they become serious enough to filter into other sites, and outside of that bubble I don't see people evaluating anyone's whole career over it, it will be brought up as an issue when the mv or whatever comes out and then forgotten about soon after, although I think what >>13652 says is probably true too
literally where is the bazaar inspo in hylt outside of lisa's part though, it just like switches to the bazaar for 30 seconds then suddenly its back to dancing around snow-covered oil wells or whatever and then they throw some modified hanboks in at the end, there's no thematic connection at all
>>13653 I’m Moroccan and I can see it, that’s why I brought it up lel. I’m not talking about the MV didn’t i specifically talk about Lisa’s Part. >I don’t see people evaluate careers based off it You said you’re not on Twitter of course you wouldn’t see it People dragged Yooa and her solo just because of her groups past in “cultural appropriation” and accused her of doing the same for her new song concept even though it wasn’t cultural appropriation Also not to mention Idle being hated for calling a song African tribal inspired, when Boygroups do the same (Bts ripping off South African dances and clothing for Idol) not give credit and get away with it.
>>13659 Yeah I know it has not impact, but it’s just hypocritical imo how Ifans react differently to male idols scandals and female idols scandals Like to this day I-fans are still defending Seungri and his gang as innocent
>>13660 almost everyone is prone to being a little hypocritical when it comes to their faves, hell kpop fans even call them 'biases' cuz we all know we're gonna be biased about what they do
I don't think seungri defenders really count as 'hypocritical' though, they're just straight up delusional
>>13677 Bad taste anon, JK has never not had a giant nose and V looked like an acorn up until last year kek V has the kind of face where you can't look for too long or you'll start realizing it's not what it seems like Like those drawings you move away from your face slowly and then see the real image behind em
>>13680 >>13679 Yeah no matter how many unflattering pics you post or how hard you try to convince yourself otherwise nothing will make them not better looking than sehun lol
>>13663 Wtf he looks downright sick He always complained that he's too skinny and can't put on weight, so him suddenly ballooning up because of being less busy or something doesn't make sense at all. Pic related is from earlier this year and he still looks completely normal…? Maybe he's sad because his sugar daddy broke up with him kek
i know shit about nct and i'm usually incapable of enjoying their songs. because i saw someone mention somewhere xiaojun is in make a wish i decided to watch the mv. i kinda like the visuals and the song isn't bad, i think i'm gonna add to my playlist. but i still can't understand why the fuck is scammer so fucking overrated? i can't stand his voice it's so annoying. just why
this acc is a self claimed sm c&c employee that confirmed nct 2020, new members etc last year and they predicted Jongdaes solo as well and last year they said the new bg would not be nct related we rejoice anti nct sm stans
>Treasure to release full album in early December after Chapter 3 single album >Chapter 3 MV being filmed this week >Chapter 3 will be a different side of Treasure, Treasure will compose the full album
>>13644 No one is really cancelled for CA lmao all of these ggs you mentioned are probably on their peak, YooA with tha pocahontas thingy was a major hit. All this supposed dragging have no consequences, just log off and they'll be free
>>13644 I don’t think they’re the same people. Middle Eastern people tend to care less about CA in general, I don’t think I’ve ever heard a complaint unless it’s religion related.
>>13699 did anyone else listen to it? it's not exactly my cup of tea but i tend to not really care for loona's group works (at least compared to their solo stuff from 2016-2017)
>>13704 Dancing in the rain is my favourite so far, I like the jazzy undertones (btw, does anyone have similar recs ?). From Home, Déjà Vu and Misfits are also good imo.
>>13717 not sure, investors reports said they were antcipating an october release but seeing the comeback rush they'll probably wait i want kolo so bad lol
>>13732 Sungchan was looking like a much stronger addition at first but it turns out he is basically a Jungwoo 2.0. Shotaro is really cute and seems to have a natural talent for dancing.
>>13722 that's terrifying >>13732 honestly I didn't get adding him at first since there's already a lot of dancers in nct but you can really tell the difference. idk much about his singing/rapping though
I remember an anon saying in previous thread that he was going to be huge because ppl were obsessed with this kid even before he debuted lmao now slowly ppl are turning…
This thread must be full of shitizens because that new NCT album is absolute garbage. I liked WayV's last album but Nectar is trash. The only tolerable songs were the last two songs and even those would be relatively weak b-sides on an Exo album.
>>13751 this thread was always filled with nshittyzens, im not surprised. Dunno abt the rest of the album but Make a Wish is terrible, whistle hooks need to die
>>13756 I used to cry the fuck out of my eyes listening to angel when I was going home from high school on a bus ride so it has a special place in my heart. Baby dont like it, whiplash, 0 mile and summer 127 are songs that I really liked too. I dont listen to nct these days but those were my top songs back when I did.
I'm a super casual fan and I'm more in it for the dancing and aesthetics.
For those of you who don't speak Korean does the music aspect really matter to you? Most of my kpop songs are in my workout playlist on spotify and I only listen to songs that have a music video. I never check out entire albums or the slower songs because It's more about a fun and catchy beat and I can't even understand what the song is about.
>>13756 I only really know regular (eng. vers.) from them and it's a rather good work out song which basically why I listen to kpop. It does the job i guess.
>>13758 I mostly care about the mood set by the songs, so I like to check entire albums in case there are good b-sides. I don't really care about the lyrics, not understanding them is not an issue - quite the contrary, it allows me to focus on something else - but maybe that's because english is not my first language, so I grew up listening to songs I didn't understand.
>>13751 >I liked WayV's last album Found the bitter wayzenni. You're lucky no one pays attention to them besides their 12 fans because if they did they'd be known as one of the worst offenders of g4 bg bullshit.
>>13758 sometimes ill check out the b-sides if i can be arsed to. It's nice if a song whose production I like has good lyrics too but it's certainly not the deciding factor in my enjoyment of a song.
>>13780 i dont get people who ree about sm female idols not being able to rap like duh theyre from sm i doubt any of the filler members were formally taught rap and lyric composion.
>>13781 I'm ready to be bullied but I actually like Yeri's rap, she has a good flow and a feminine cute voice. Her part in Peek-a-boo is honestly the best
At this point SM is just telling Exo to fuck off. I think that's the only group activity they got this year and it's just Baekhyun and Kai showing the blandest photobox anybody could come up with, everything just black and white, no subtitles, zero effort. They can't even hide anymore how much they hate it.
>>13774 Sehun legend shawty imma party till the sun down
Prefer that than YG fake swag and blackboo style. Have you ever seen the rap battle between jyp and yg trainees (when winner and ikon were still trainees)? Yg is pure noise and cringe
With SM you know that it's gonna be funny, but with JYP and YG you think it's serious art - until you turn 16 and realize that it's just as cringe, just a lot more self-important kek
I hope you guys did well at work/college today! And even if you felt you didn't do that great, there is always tomorrow. Mondays are the worst so we have to do the best to brave through it!
>>13789 THE HAY THE HAY no but sm used to have good rappers up until tvxq lel probs because they had african american ghostwriters for the english raps (cue the n word bomb eric dropped) and also the fact that yoo youngjin composed the korean rap parts made it 100x better
>>13794 it's so accurate it becomes sad >>13798 BP fan edits are always at least listenable, it goes to show how little work teddy puts in his work, teenagers do better in their room. Fuck men
>>13804 I don't think that guys particularly hot but come on anon. Jimincel is bottom of the fucking barrel kek no one is uglier than that reptilian besides like Woozi and S Coups
since moafag found out no need to hide out plans anymore anon whos creating the imageboard pls include these boards containment board for criticism/bashing and shit talking kbeauty/idol fashion board kdrama/webtoon related media board (non idol) strictly idol media discussion board /img/ and /ot/ like the have on lolcow for unrelated kpop/kdrama discussions
>>13808 Theres gonna be a whole koreaboo imageboard? Whew ngl I'm not looking forward to this because because I don't want to end up wasting so much time on dumb shit lol
Anonettes you seriously need to learn to respect yourselves more. Lucasfags are annoying and Moafag is simply underage, but brainwashing yourself to find Shotaro or Scoups handsome is on a whole other level. No idea how you look like, but chances are high that it's minimum their level, so quit simping for those fuglies. You can like their songs but constantly going "uhm u guys, i think he actually looks cute here teehee" is sad. That gives me Shindongfag vibes, don't end up like her lol
>>13808 We aren't really planning on making many boards just yet. We are trying to keep it minimal as a start with only a kpop general board and an /ot/ board but we are absolutely considering a board for kdrama/webtoon and fashion stuff for later down the line. We aren't really planning on being heavyhanded on it and there will be minimal rules outside of the basic ones such as no maleposting, no gore, spam etc. but the threads and what you want to post are up to you guys. I've enjoyed the general vibe of the threads here and on LC so I'm hoping that will carry over to the new board
>>13812 >>13811 Uhm no one wants an entire imageboard dedicated for you lot to sperg your hate and anger on Containment board sounds nice, so the media board can actually be about people freely having threads for their idols to discuss things they like and music, concepts etc That way you cant sperg and infight with people who stan groups you dont like Sounds good?
>>13808 but that's basically just allkpop or onehallyu. can't we just keep it simple with few threads okay i just want to bash on kpop boys for fun idc about the rest of that kboo shit
>>13820 It's a fucking imageboard dedicated to kpop I domt know if you really thought anon was making a kpop critical related imageboard Holy shit some of you are dedicated to living a life full of hate What's wrong with wanting a anonymous board where you can have a thread dedicated to your oppar or unnir like?
>>13819 Why do you need multiple threads to sperg out on?
>>13818 Same. I don't see anyone encouraging the Moafag though. Lucasfag is by far the worst since she spergs out the most and no one ever tells her to fuck off.
>>13830 >Unconventionally attractive people didn't chose their features Okay? Still doesn't mean that you should lie to them and yourself that the opposite is true. They already have enough fangirls kissing their ass, no need for you to join in.
They won’t be enough activity for multiple threads. Lc had two threads first the general and critical but the general was always dead and they were put together eventually. on here they is even less activity.
>>13827 Genuine question what do you think a kpop imageboard would be about if yall dont want people to talk about their faves, new releases etc lol I just cant comprehend it lol Just have a complete idol critical board where you can shit talk in peace Or is it that u wanna infight 24/7 or something Some of us just want peace ☆♡
>>13834 people can make whatever threads they want. if they die they die but it's a whole board and we won't get kicked off no matter what so i don't get the pearl clutching about what should and shouldn't be on there
Just to chime in my opinion but I really like the general feel of this thread. I like mixing criticism along with the occasional appreciation and even the occasional thirst posts. A thread of just hate is gonna be shit and a thread of just mindless uwu sperging is gonna be shit. Frankly I like being called out and brought back to reality after a moment of delusional thirsting over my favorite kpop daddy.
>>13834 Difference is lolcow isnt a kpop imageboard so naturally more people were drawn to the kpc lol Didnt we get it banned because kpg and kpc anons kept infighting
>>13835 And I can't comprehend why you don't get that you could do this >talk about faves, new releases etc on literally every other site as well already, allkpop, twitter, reddit, yt,…
>>13838 It's a fucking imageboard are you gonna police people on their memes that dont fit your taste anon Is a meme gonna make u lose sleep Maybe this place isnt 4 u
>>13841 Difference is I wanna do it on an anonymous image board, There are j-idol image boards, otaku ones etc I dont see anything wrong with it honestly
>>13832 Tbh I'm not even trying to convince you that my taste in idol is god tier, i'm not even kissing his ass idc about svt. I'm just tired of people fighting each other if they dare to say anyone who isn't eunwoo is attractive. Beauty standards are an indictor, not a norm. You seem real chill and understanding so let's just agree to disagree.
>>13834 why wouldn't there be enough activity? kpc was one of the most active threads on lc and this is the only genuinely active thread on flop cc. kpop is a hot topic.
Since SM reconciled with Mnet (I really wonder why or how after pic), what are the chances that their groups (or just NCT) will attend MAMA? If that happens, I'd nevertheless doubt that they'd give BTS less performance time than last year, so it would evolve into yet another huge fight kek
>>13849 Ok but a whole imageboard wont survive with just one thread why are you so adamant on the kpc thing lol If that's the case just scratch the idea and just stay on cc??
>>13856 Nta but the reason people have been looking for other options is because while cc admin still tolarates us, she isn't exactly fond of us, we need a plan b
>>13856 Anon have you lost the memo? We received an eviction notice lmao If we could we would still be on LC but we keep getting evicted so that why a good anon has decided to come up with our own sacred and promised land
>>13863 i prefer smth like the standard on lc and the 'wintery' theme here on cc, but i honestly don't care that much. although imo blue is easier on the eyes
>>13862 i agree >>13860 my tastes are not superior in any way i was just thinking we could have had much more cultured fags if we absolutely need to have them but we got 2 basic monkeyfags instead
>>13754 Am I the only one who thinks of the nonprofit in the United States when they hear the title "Make A Wish"? >>13765 Kek, way to sperg out, shitizen. I literally like that one album. Maybe I'd like an NCT 127/U album if they weren't all rap based songs with Taeyong's grating voice.
I see these every once in a while and am curious as to who the fuck watches these? Ignore that it's BTS, what I mean is self-inserting with your kpop bias when it's literally never going to happen.
>>13871 Baby don't stop and the 7th sense are the only nct songs I like and both of them are ruined by taeyong, I hate that frog looking twink solely because of it
Hey moafag this is one of the lucasfags but the way u post only the same ugly picture of ur oppa continuously makes me think you are a 13 year old autistic kid who thinks this is somehow humorous or u actually hate that guy you keep posting.
If ur trying to convert ppl why u don't post nice up to date photos once in a while? like I'm genuinely confused here.
>>13875 I am kinda lazy. I just started on my shitposting and most of my pics are anttier so I am adjusting on the quality. And no, most moas are above 30. Their music really appeals more to old timers who wasted their teenage years despite BigShit trying to appeal to zoomers. The Weekly Idol teaser vlive just aired today. You should check it out. And most of my pics are teasers for the new comeback this 26th, so my pics aren't even old.
>>13774 Shineefag here, I find Minho’s shitty rapping to be endearing, predominantly because he does write most of his own raps. At least he tries, not many shitty idol rappers can say that.
>>13881 As an exofag I'd say they will, at least some/most of them. Lay of course not, that would make zero sense, DO also not, he will likely go fully into acting, but Kai is a dancer, what other company could he sign to? And what about the useless members? Chanyeol and Sehun are probably content with staying and just doing influencer/fashion stuff and maybe a tiny bit of music on the side. I think Chen will stay because SM didn't let go of him despite his scandal and because he's already able to do plenty of OSTs and ballads nowadays, and that seems to be his thing. For Baekyhun and Xiumin it depends on how good the conditions of the new contract would be or if they get better offers elsewhere. Suho is the most worrisome, he doesn't have a specific talent (and he's unpopular), what is he going to do?
Seohyun was known as the most boring member in SNSD and didn't have much talent but I recently watched a drama with her and her acting is good. Maybe he can transition into acting?
>>13883 >chanyeol would be content with staying >exofag btw The exohag who comes in here to sperg about how smexy they looked in those clapped pictures from 2012? lmao. Even his own fans have been struggling to pay attention to him for the past year or two so I guess I can't blame you! >Suho is the most worrisome, he doesn't have a specific talent (and he's unpopular), what is he going to do? He's a millionaire so… whatever the fuck he wants
None of them will re-sign if they know what's good for them because all SM does is hold them back now that Exo has effectively disbanded. Shit company.
>>13889 Ew lol the way he laughed it off when Haechan got annoyed This gives me Exo tease They stopped after Kai was basically like "stfu" everytime they tried to mock his tan skin I hate these jokes
He said that Haechan is so tan because the fans are so bright, aka the sun. He fucked up and stuttered or something which is why Haechan rolled his eyes and said "if you are going to do it do it right" and the others laughed at his blunder. Unless there is some hidden innuendo in Korean I don't understand how this is colorist.
Make a wish was shit. I was looking forward to it and i'm left disappointed. I can't even remember what that fucking shit song sounds like. Misfit was heaps better SM better have some magic tricks up the bag because if this is the all the album has to offer nct should start introducing a graduation system asap
>>13887 >The exohag who comes in here to sperg about how smexy they looked in those clapped pictures from 2012? lmao. >I can't deal with the fact that 1 time 1 person posted something other than nct, so i'll call you old topkek You have zero idea what sperging means, don't you? Anons could post their oppar/unnie a 1000 times more and it still wouldn't amount to the insane number of posts that were made about lucas, wayv, txt already
>>13712 Lol Xiojun isn't on that song, it's Renjun/Kun/Chenle. But yeah Renjun and Yuta really stood out on this track, I didn't even know they could sound that good.
do we have to start saying even more slurs for the twitterfags to fucking leave? you retards are really ruining this thread (not that it was ever that good to begin with, but we would be so much better off without all the dyed-haired brainlets coming from the most fucking annoying social platform and bringing their unfunny shit over here and complaining when an imageboard works the way imageboards are supposed to work)
>>13908 right, it’s so obvious 80% of ppl itt come from kpop twitter and other autistic fandom circles. most posters here give off allkpop/onehallyu vibes
So nct broke sm's record when it comes to preorders and mv views, does this mean that their promotions will be limited to 1 comeback for around 3 days per year? Would only be fair, come on it's time to let others shine. They should kiss ratmon's little japanese brother's feet, he's been here since like a week and look what happened
Also, lucas looking mighty wrinkly and ana next to other people his age
Twitterfag but I kinda wish that Hendery actually dislikes Johnny. Even though they’re both kind of cringy Johnny is still much worse. Hopefully we get to see more of who dislikes eachother in nct lol.
>>13917 At first I was going to defend SM until I looked at the views. 25M in 24 hours? Even Twice can't even pull those numbers anymore. Ads were definitely used.
>>13920 Understandable, everything about him is making me uncomfortable. Jaehyun seems so serious, so I don't really think that him and Johnny actually get along. Also, Hendery would be such a good idol if he wasn't 5'4
I know that yesterday nctfans were finally getting their shit together and streaming like crazy. Why this shit song tho? Misfit only has 12 million views.
God I fucking hate Choiza so much. Look at him eating delicious food and enjoying his life while Sulli is rotting in a cold grave and never got to reach 26.
>>13928 Samefag, they did pay for ads for Make a Wish by the way. Nctzens obviously couldn't pull these numbers off alone. They did the same thing for Kick It.
>>13938 >Paid-ad views will no longer be counted toward the YouTube Music Charts, and artist rankings will now be determined by “organic plays.” Additionally, the Google-owned platform is changing its methodology for determining which videos are eligible for 24-hour record debuts. Now, eligibility will be determined by videos with the “highest views from organic sources within the first 24 hours of the video’s public release,” according to an official YouTube blog post. >However, paid-ad views will still contribute to view counts outside of the Music Charts and 24-hour record. (from https://www.forbes.com/sites/caitlinkelley/2019/09/14/youtube-excludes-paid-ad-views-from-24-hour-rankings-and-music-charts/amp/) TL;DR no.
>>13942 and in case anyone is extra retarded, let me reiterate that "24hr record" does not just refer to the first 24hrs a video has been up. it's literally a view count record for the first 24hrs a video has been up which only counts views from organic sources https://www.youtube.com/trends/records/
>>13937 Billionaires with the shittiest taste, their house might be big but amongst the ugliest I've ever seen
Also, where's the anon who keeps saying that the dreamies are bulking up and getting manlier? He still looks like a little boy, even next to twink Mark
Smrookiefag I’m back So the GG is really debuting this year Jimin is probably dropped out since the insider account said that the “Iine up is finalized” meaning someone got dropped out.
So next year rookie lineup is SMNGG vs YGNGG vs possible Starship GG SMNBG vs JYPNBG vs Enhypen vs Drippin Lawl this is more interesting than the 2020 and last years line up
>>13956 >jpn boy group (niziu male ver) Oh god please no, an entire group of Yutas and Shotaros! To whom is this supposed to appeal to? Western weebs? Because both korean and japanese women prefer their kpop boys to be korean.
Apparently a bunch of twitter stans are ”unstanning” Lucas because of his reoccuring fatphobia….I just find it so funny when people expect their oppars to have the personality of a circa 2015 sjw insta admin, good that they’re acknowledging his annoying ass personality though. https://twitter.com/habibihendery/status/1316037224216113154?s=21
>>13958 Even if they were a Korean member Ed BG they would be ugly They’re from JYP what do u expect lawl even Sm couldn’t get their hands on actual attractive Japanese boys
>>13957 2019 was way more interesting on the boys side. We had TXT, X1, Ateez, AB61X, Kang Daniel etc. I agree with 2020 as a whole though. We only had Treasure and even then you can argue that they are flops. Girls side has been really dry in 2020 (We only have Weeekly, who is Rocket Punch 2.0 and Secret Number, who are propped up by SEA). 2019 on girls side had Itzy dominating so there was no real competition. Next year is anyone's game for girls but Enhypen will probably dominate the boys side because muh CJEM.
>>13968 No CJ will have to back down for Yg, Jyp and SM lol their monopoly game on the industry is over and BIGHIT will have to back down as well if the debuts are successful Also forgot BH was having a girl group debut next year If SM is really debuting a boygroup they’ll sweep from Enhypen lol they basically have all the fandoms of their seniors backing them as well as SMNGG 2019 was really uninteresting for me since miraculously X1 got disbanded and Txt took their awards and Itzy didn’t have any competitors Even Daniel and Ab6ix took no rookie award
Fatphobia??? That’s not a real thing. Nobody likes fat people, fat people look gross and unattractive. This is just the universes law. Imagine liking kpop and caring about fatphobia omg
>>13974 >wouldn’t Sm just sabotage them I don’t think SM sees them as a threat LSM seems very interested and invested in their concept as a group, probably reminds him of his what if Exo female version lol They’re the first non SM group he ever produced for I think so I feel like they would take good care of them
>>13959 They’re genuinely shocked when idols turn out to be ”fatphobic” as if 95% of them aren’t anachans and get cancelled for CA every week. Lucas is dumb as fuck but the projecting in the second tweet amazes me….who said anything about him wanting fattie kpop stans to like him? lmfao
>>13977 Oh wow I had no idea about that. Now your comment about acquiring makes more sense for me. Makes me wonder if the newgg could have a similar concept to Loona.
>>13981 They may have a more "elegant" concept, it seems to be the new trend with Iz*One, Loona and RV latest comeback. I'm not complaining, it's refreshing to see something other than "UwU softy" and "strong independent wamen"
>>13984 Rv doesn’t have a similar concept to Izone or Loona Pretty sure they’ll go for the F(x) route lol the Itzy style is too overused and all Sm girl groups are unique to each other so it doesn’t make sense that they would be having the same concept to RV
I think this time SM is gonna make a GP famous girlgroup instead of targeting towards a female audience like Rv, Soshi and Fx did they want a broader one Like they did with BoA and S.e.S with their image
>>13982 Jaden Jong was a shitty human being but he was one hell of a producer. Everything sounds like a boring ballad with the same arrangement. We will never have something as unique as "XX"again.
>>13992 I've been into kpop since SNSD were at their peak, and they were THE incel-bait girl group especially in their early days. Even your link contradicts the idea that they were female targeted. >we give (our girl groups) a confident and modern image true of f(x) and red velvet but there's nothing 'confident and modern' about Kissing You, Gee, Oh, etc - the MVs are pure cutesy girlfriend experience type shit
as one commenter pointed out: >SM stopped gaining male fans after SNSD. f(x) and Red Velvet have way more female fans.
SNSD had a reasonable amount of female fans, especially later, but their main target was men.
>>13959 I'd agree with you if it wasn't for his fans being hypocrites >lucas is fatphobic -> 0 likes >Omg that's just his culture, fuck pc culture, don't push your western views on him! plus they're literally best friends, they'd tell him if they were really hurt, this is none of your business! -> 1000+ likes >somebody mentions anything about him being tan >Omg poor baby is literally getting deaththreats from racists!
Homophobia, colorism, and so on is also part of east asian culture, therefore foreigners shouldn't be sensitive about those topics either, you can't dish out and expect to get nothing back. The other members, especially Kun, need to learn to defend themselves better, there'd be plenty of things they could insult him with. Plus you just know that those woke twitterfags only pull the culture card and defend him because they find him hot, if anybody else called them fat they'd claim ptsd or something lol
>>13994 Lol ITNW was targeted towards girls, RDR, Hoot, The Boyz, etc
@ 1:01 in the video listen to how many female fans are chanting during the gee performance lol In Japan their female fans basically carried Soshi success and the reason why they promoted for so long successfully is because they didn’t have overbearing male fans who would drop them for a younger GG
>>14001 japanese men have their own idols to fap to so japanese kpop fans are 90% female no matter the artist. soshi was 100% pedobait before they grew old
>>14004 Topkek Soshi was never targeted towards male fans early on their career up until OH If anyone’s coping it’s you, if Sm’s Ceo and director said it then they were
If Soshi truly was targeted towards men they would’ve been as short lived as Twice when holding the NGG title but they held it for 8 years lol
>>14001 One thing SM has always been good at is having groups that are flexible with concepts. SNSD wasn't targeted ONLY toward men, but I don't know how you can watch stuff like the beginning of the Genie MV and think that shit was targeted toward women. It's pure male fantasy. They were just lucky to accumulate enough of a female fanbase on the side that they could pivot toward them and stay relevant in their later years.
Also this >>14005, as much as SNSD were male pandering, Jpop groups are way WAY worse for it so to Japanese women SNSD wouldn't seem that bad.
>>14011 I don’t the Into the new world was targeted towards guys lol but ok Soshi is a complicated case but it’s obvious SM wanted a female audience that’s what I meant I don’t mean their concepts were female empowering or anything, just that naturally their image as idols was targeted towards girls Outside of their songs and stuff Soshi was known for their relax and tomboyish attitude (wouldn’t call it that but in variety shows they acted just like the male idols would in comparison with other female idols who were trained to give off a timid vibe for fan service)
lol I remember the first kpop song I ever saw was Gee and I was initially really turned off by the level of pandering, but then someone linked me AKB48 - Heavy Rotation and I was like 'actually maybe kpop isn't so bad'
>>14014 I think their attitude on variety and so on was actually a bigger contributor to their female fanbase really, I can see how watching the girls be relaxed and funny would appeal to women even if their concepts were made to appeal to men. But I feel like SM didn't necessarily expect the female audience in the beginning, but once they noticed it they hopped on it as quick as they could.
>>13997 >Omg that's just his culture, fuck pc culture, don't push your western views on him! plus they're literally best friends, they'd tell him if they were really hurt, this is none of your business! -> 1000+ likes have you seen stan twitter? they're all sjws. there are countless tards crying about how they were always the DUFF in their friend groups and lucas is unironically triggering them. the only people wking him aren't even justifying it, they're just bringing attention to the fact that the other wayv members have done it too. stan twit will excuse a lot of things, but they draw the line at fatphobia.
>>13809 Kinda agree. I would never call S Coups handsome tbh but I find him OK looking when the stylists go for a more "manly" look and don't put that much eyeshadow on him. I just don't get it, whoever is in charge of his make up insists on slapping dark browns/reds into his eyes as well as dark liptints and it's obvious that the poor boy just doesn't pull it off, he simply does not have the face for it and it makes him look weird af. They do the same thing with Vernon and he's another idol that doesn't suit make up that much, but what I fucking hate the most is the way they do his eyebrows. Actually, whoever is in charge of doing all of Seventeen's makeup needs to be fired.
>>14019 Agreed. Regarding Japan there was even an episode on a tv show 'analyzing' why snsd has so many female fans compared to other gg and they said it's because they're more beautiful than cute, tall/skinny/fashionable, simply how most girls and women want to be. I'd say that this actually fits the original definition of idol the most: somebody you admire, look up to, aspire to be - not somebody you'd want to fuck lol
Just look at this pic, we all know exactly whom moids prefer…
>>14023 Well, but the examples you or that other lucasfag picked out all only have between 0 and 4 likes, doesn't really seem to be an issue worth defending him over. It's not a big deal, simply don't search for lucas and fatphobic on twitter.
>>14014 ITNW wasn't particularly male-targeted but it also wasn't a big hit when it was released, despite its popularity in the long term. So SM doubled down on appealing to men and was more successful, almost all of SNSD's biggest hits are their male-targeted songs.
Taeyeon dating Baekhyun is still one of the worst-received dating scandals ever, if they were a female-targeted group then there wouldn't have been nearly as much backlash.
>>13958 >> japanese women prefer their kpop boys to be korean JO1 contradict this tho they were formed on produce Japan and they doing great sales wise
>>14030 Such is the life of your average Lucasfag.
Looking at twitter, the way they defend him is exactly the way our Lucasfag writes somebody: >lucas calling kun fat 3 times in a single day is bad lucasfags: >hot >king >i'm wet >based
>>14035 forget to add that produce Japan was only watched by Japanese K-pop fans but for Nizi they showed Highlights on a very popular morning show watched by people that don’t usually care for kpop and it blew up their song went viral. So if jyp does the same for the boygroup it’s going to be successful. With Niziu and the boygroup jyp gonna swim in yen lol
>>14038 Eww this is such a disgusting pic I really hate how bigshit markets them kinda childish but sexual that same time. On top of that they ugly and have possibly the most boring personality’s in kpop
>>14054 They are really freaking boring Reminds me of when Doni and Coni got mad at them for having zero personality on Idol Room And triple eyelid kid sounds straight up retarded when he laughs He laughed really loud once on some variety show and the members tensed up and Mc got shook lol
>>14063 Txt is not a concept group lol they basically recycle the same shit for their songs all the time and it’s really basic Discount Shinee I will say
>>14060 i know cherry bullet had that thing where 3 of the members left super early but how are rocket punch so irrelevant? Shame abt weeekly, Tag me was pretty good but this new cb is so hookless and uncatchy
>>14053 Lucasfags post hate comments towards him because it's somehow his fault the he doesn't enjoy being called fat and that people call out lucas.
Also, look at this pic: of course "b-but people are mean towards lucas too" get's by far the most likes, because telling a grownass asian man to behave when in public is somehow antiblack and 'ableist'. Dude is on par with jimincel and jk in terms of being coddled by fans.
>>14086 Yes that’s why I posted it lol They’re stanning a group with a creep who they’ve never heard sing or even speak Apparently he’s gay too and made thirst tweets about Jimincel A female idol would be ended had this came out
>>14091 Lmao Man, recently there was this girl who had a total spergout on reddit because some people said that other members are better at dancing then her sehun and as proof for his talent she choose lotto kek
>>14096 I fucking hate how stans will say that their favs "are like siblings hehe they love to bully each other" until one of them is a confirmed rapist and then it becomes a proof that they never validated his behavior
>>14101 i wasn't even a fan but sometimes when i think about her i can't help but tear up. she was so young and didn't deserve all the shit that happened to her.
>>14011 >>14025 Japan has had non-pedobait girls groups since the 90s with taller, hotter, and fitter girls but they aren't considered "idols" nor are they marketed as such. Ig because of that they don't garner as much obsessive fans so they aren't as long-lived as idols groups.
- A homosexual relationship between two members from an average company! - A member of a popular girl group who was subjected to violence from an employee within her agency, she has a medical report proving this, but the agency was able to stop her from uncovering the matter and they fired him. She did not file a case against him because of the agency's insistence not to cause any problems - An idol from the Big Three is dating a staff member, he is treating her like a close friend to try to hide their real relationship, but everyone knows that their relationship is deeper than that. - A dispute happend between Taehyung and a girl idol recently.. - Blackpink and GOT7! - All of the Blackpink members are currently dating! - Jungkook is dating a famous female idol - Joyo was recently harassed by a girl idol who spoke badly about her and her relationships. - An agency bribed an employee from another agency to leak plans and concept for a group comeback! (Both agencies are well known) - Chanyeol is dating an idol of the Big Three - Mina is dating a member of a popular group (not a big company) - Miwon is dating from SM - Suicide in order to gain attention will become a trend in K-Pop. Just wait and do not believe everything! - SM employees are scum, they say sarcastic words/made fun of and say that EXO is done, the members are very upset about their behaviors and that day almost a fight broke out between one of the members and a staff when that member heard them talking. - That idol group is a ticking bomb. If something leaked about them, no one will be able to save their image, well, who will accept that that member is a sexual harasser !! - Exo .. December - Lisa will be involved in controversial news - Red Velvet's comeback is scheduled for December - A foreign member who wants to leave the group and return to her country - A group that a member has left previously, another member will leave them.. - A member from Twice and a surprising news soon!
>>13987 >>13992 I WANT A TRIO. It's never gonna happen but SM doing S.E.S 2.0 would be so badass. I'm tired of 4 member groups where there's no center member. >>14127 > Suicide in order to gain attention will become a trend in K-Pop. Uhhhhhhhh……
>>14127 I don’t believe suicides are happening for attention Honestly this person seems unreliable Didn’t you post something from this Twitter account that said basically that Jungkook and Sehun had beef lol
>>14130 Ok but either way you’re following unreliable sources lol Arab, Spanish and American sasaengs on Twitter are by far the most unreliable sasaengs The only foreign sources (sasaeng) u should believe are SEA, Chinese and Japanese ones. Also, what sane sasaeng who isn’t a leaker gives free info
Also isnt the main Moafag from Gaypg??? Isnt gaypg full of Male posters Is that why moafag is trying to make us like him/her? I could've sworn I saw a pic an anon posted of Sehun here on 4chan They're trying to throw us off that they're not a Male poster huh
Moafag is literally a guy lol Hes the Txtfag on Gaypg I caught him when he worded this post word for word >>14127 Theres no reason to be on gaypg posting Male idols unless ur an actual faggot ffs MODSSSSSS Finally we can get him banned
>>14131 I know most of the sources aren't real. But this one is the most reliable so far. I dont follow and pay attention that much but i remember she said that she deleted her account on 2017 because they gave her a warning because she share too much info for free. But she was allowed to be back last year and they gave her permission to write in blind items style (?) Anyway, us, the international fans will never know who is saying the truth. So i will take it with a grain of salt.
P.s. selling info is not a thing between arab ssangs.
I wish I fucking screenshotted this I cant make this up >2 days earlier an anon figures out moafag is from gaypg >anon brings receipts >moafag denies >gaypg exposes that moafag is on cc >moafag tries to Cape for himself by showing proof shot of double penetration anal vibrator posing as a lesbian
>>14197 i think it's the vocals, and the change in style of music. i'm sorry but cannot stand kai's voice, at all. chen either, but his voice is more bearable when paired with ksoo's. i need ksoo and xiumin to come back for me to start listening to their music again like i used to. it's also kind of due to nostalgia because it was so fun being a fan when exodus was released. the pathcode teasers where something else.. i feel like has SM has changed for the worst
The gaypg kyungsoo anon got me back to my kyungsoofag zone Why aren't there more wholesome Male idols like him I'm so sad >fat ass >cute face >nice voice >cooks >is neat When will your kpop boy
>>14205 He is probably going to be the most successful member after EXO disbands. He’s already the most popular among the general Korean public and is known as one of the only idols with good acting skills. In the end, talent wins!
>>14207 >cooks he pretty much got me interested in korean food because of how much the members would go on about his kimchi spaghetti, i made it following his recipe and it was amazing. it was the first time i ever tried kimchi
>>14127 Not sure if I believe any of it but nice. Placing my bets down for Lisa and BamBam. Stray kids could be the group with another member leaving. Jungkook might be dating a Gfriend member? There’s been similar rumours for ages.
>>14210 >Lisa and Bambam At this point those two are family, isn't their moms like bff and Bambam used to stay/visit her family in Korea during his trainee days? if they are dating and they are dating and end up breaking up their relationship is going to be awkward lol
>>14203 Fuck these teasers are amazing. Iirc Blockberry Creative tried to do something similar with each pre-debut Loona girl's MV taking place in a different city but they ran out of money within their budget. I know that it can be argued that they looked like lesbians at debut but SM has really excellent quality when they try and refrain from doing weird shit for the sake of doing it. I never appreciated these Pathcode teasers because I only started liking Exo in 2019 so I'm pretty floored rn. It must have been really fun to be an Exo-L back then, rip. I was a Ratmy at the time that these were released…good lord. Here's to hoping the new SM boy group can deliver something closer in talent and quality to TVXQ, Shinee, and Exo.
This was a weird video. I'm pretty sure Shotaro only understands 5% of what people are saying to him. Also can't tell if i'm just used to big korean heads or if shotaros head is unusually small.
>>14215 Why do you keep insisting stays are the new ratmies? That tweet could have easily come from any fandom since that level of delulu thought about their faves "talent" is pretty much the standard in stan twitter, i don't know how this proves somehow stays are the new ratmies, but seriously you been so focused on this stuff since threads ago that it makes me wonder did they bullied you or something like that? why are you so pressed?
>>14222 Bitch who's >you<? It's the first time I bring up these motherfuckers lmaaao Just accept it that most people itt dont vibe with you obbars and fandom
>>14223 I'm just confused how you got to that based on an icon since no other group was mentioned in comparison but no need to infight about it. Please unclench
>>14225 How is that hard to follow tho? If that girl has a skz avi it's a given she approves of their rapping…. yall being obtuse, most ppl agree with the content itself it's just ironic that they have a shitty kpop rapper as their avi too lol
>>14222 Skzos aspire to be the next ratmies unfortunately they cant because they're outdone by nugus from backyard companies… they'll have to settle for being smug stans of a flop group
>>14230 We have a back-up board + there's a potential lc janny or she's already janny that was kinda willing to fight for our thread…. also farmhands applications in LC are open if anyone wants to take one for the team lul
This thread is somehow more bearable than the LC threads were. LC threads felt like shitflinging fests literally every other post. There's actual discussion here tho, between the making fun of idols and each other kek Idk why, maybe LC got namedropped in kpop forums or something
>>14234 The only thing in common and the thing I hate the most is the swarming of nctfags. I can't stand this botched fest in any way, even though some of their songs are okay. But yes, here is much nicer than on lc.
>>14236 It's not a "back up" board it's an entirely new board being made for anons here so there won't be any more risks of being kicked out. Anon said it'll be done by the end of this week iirc. CC Admin already gave us an eviction notice and I doubt LC admin will take us back considering the whining on /meta/ every time someone asks
>>14235 It's just a lot easier to ignore the occasional NCT pic rather than like 20 posts of retardation in a row like on lc. Lc has gone to complete shit lately, not even counting to kpop threads, so I don't know why their mods care so much about it not being there when the site quality is legitimately at an all time low
>>14230 Bitch I am not moafag how dare you even imply this. There’s also not just me working on the new imageboard. It’s close to being done. Probably tomorrow or Friday
Is there something on JYP? He seems to advertise himself (and braindead twitter eats it up and praises him) as the only CEO who's very involved in his groups and cares
>>14255 Can’t reveal that yet since it’s up so I can fuck around with some coding and see changes firsthand and I don’t want you guys snooping around before it’s finished. I’ll link to it here though once it’s done if admin here is fine with that
I kind of wouldn't mind if some more twitterfags found lc and cc threads, maybe they would realize their delusions. On the other hand they should at least lurk before posting dumb shit.
>>14220 >I'm pretty sure Shotaro only understands 5% of what people are saying to him I don't understand why they didn't get someone who can speak the same language as him in the video instead
>>14261 lol imagine cc getting swarmed by insta stans >>14263 what do korean nctfags think about yuta after his imperialist friend scandal? maybe thats why they had to put shotaro with a bunch of koreans instead
>>14264 the YouTuber is actually korean he just speaks Japanese well because he lived there for a time. His controversial videos were all from two years ago and yuta met him a few weeks before mentioning him. I feel like the Korean fans just ignore his existence because i thought they would demand for him to leave
>>14263 During both vlives he was in he was wearing a translator earpiece. They debuted him early after 3-4 months I think, the should of at least let dr. Kim fix his face a little
>>14220 seeing shotaro content is so weird and cringy, it's like he doesn't even realize that he just debuted in a kpop group kek it's like watching a random guy trying to blend in with some idols
Do you think the more ""masculine"" female idols (JeongYeon, Moonbyul) have that image because they prefer it, or it's just another form of girlcrush/imposition the company gives them?
>>14272 I think it can go either way, with Amber it really seems to be her own style but Jeongyeon's style always struck me as seeming to be more imposed by the company
>>14273 didn't Moonbyul say lesbianism was against her beliefs or was that another popular presumed lesbian and/or something I dreamt
>>14271 > it's like he doesn't even realize that he just debuted in a kpop group
God, thats exactly it. He's also debuted immediately after being scouted while the majority of NCT trained for years and had their spirits broken down by SM. I'm almost positive SM is making a Japanese subunit and thats his entire purpose.
I think it would be a great idea tbh. TWICE and IZONE and that NIZI project did great, so who will fill the Japanese male idol gap? SM could bring an actually attractive male idol group to Japan with great dancing and some Korean members sprinkled in.
This is Loona's upcoming album medley and some parts of the title song: Why Not just sounds like an SNSD song. I'm asking 2nd gen fags, am I hearing into this or it's really like SNSD: The Boys?
>>14279 There are at least two other groups pushing hard in Japan right now (TxT and Treasure) plus JYP is planning a Japan-oriented boygroup soon and the group from that Japanese produce show is doing well. If anything, Japan has a surplus of male idol groups right now.
>>14282 Yeah exactly I don’t think sm is planning a jp boy group, at least not in the near future. Maybe there just isn’t a good reason shotaro is there, I mean Johnny has been there for goodness sakes who knows why for so long
>>14280 I'm a 2nd gen fag and the first part in Why Not actually reminded me the most of the bridge from f(x) electric shock, after the beat drops it doesn't really sound like 2nd gen to me though, it just sounds like itzy. It's a little cuter than f(x) so maybe that's why it also sounds like SNSD.
>>14265 right, and immediately assuming he's an anti-korean, pro-imperialist, and raging misogynist because he hung out a couple times with some cringy "edgy" ytuber who said some shit a few years ago is simply laughable to me. What's also funny is that that ytuber has hung out with other idols and even has pictures with them on his insta but nobodys trying to cancel them lol. >I feel like the Korean fans just ignore his existence Basically this. It was a non-isue to them because he doesn't impact how they feel about nct in any way, which is what I noticed k-fans seem to care about.
>>14212 they really are great.. i paid attention to the loona teasers when they were first announced and i think the teasers definitely up there with the pathcode teasers, i really saw them as a female EXO at first. for EXODUS, SM even made a twitter @PathcodeExo and riddles were hidden within the teasers posted on exo's website. > I never appreciated these Pathcode teasers because I only started liking Exo in 2019 so I'm pretty floored rn. It must have been really fun to be an Exo-L back then, rip. I was a Ratmy at the time that these were released…good lord. Here's to hoping the new SM boy group can deliver something closer in talent and quality to TVXQ, Shinee, and Exo. honestly anon, i became a fan in 2014, literally a few months before kris left exo. but that time was still so nostalgic to me because so much shit went down. if you want to see more of exo back then, i'd recommend watching their concert DVD's starting from the first one (Expolanet #1 - The Lost Planet + there are some really good fancams of performances around this time as well), the SMTOWN concerts that they participated in, their live concert albums, checking out their photobook Exo Die Jungs, and watch EXO Showtime and EXO next door. I truly hope that the next SM boygroup can live up to the likes of TVXQ, SHINee and Exo. because NCT isn't doing it for me. at all. >tfw this photo was one of the most used picture by exo fans in 2014 and still makes you sad years later
>>14280 saw the album teaser and most of them didnt impress me; why not just sounds like so what 2.0 to me. Ill be looking for Hide and Seek though >>14281 this is one of the worst songs ive ever heard
>>14215 >>14226 https://www.reddit.com/r/kpopthoughts/comments/izoftj/gods_menu_is_what_bts_would_sound_like_today_if/ Yeah anon you're right imo, Skzos are the new Ratmys except BTS at least kind of created their own success whereas SKZ has always been under JYP and is now just slightly less irrelevant. God's Menu's 'success' must have gotten to their heads. >>14287 I'm the anon you replied to–thanks for the recs. Personally I think the Chinese members leaving benefitted Exo in the long run since the majority of them (Kris, Tao) were deadweight and Luhan looks like a woman. Do Exo-Ls think a major opportunity was lost with Exo-M? We've talked in the past how China's ent industry is different (i.e, group members go solo, groups aren't the main priority) so I'm wondering if the success of both Exo-M and Exo-K would have ever been actualized if the members had stayed.
anyone watch the bp netflix documentary? ngl i hated how they shilled them as these super talented, incredibly hardworking passionate girls when they're all average at best with everything they do. i felt second hand embarassment throughout the whole doc. and i wish that they didn't pretend that bp just so happened to be 4 members out of however many trainees there were, it's not like it wasn't yg's goal to make a 'pretty version of 2ne1' from the start kek. i always wondered if they're not ashamed of themselves and their lack of talent but now i see that they actually believe that they're amazing, it's mind boggling. the doc was supposed to be humanising them but imo they still give off weird, bad vibes
>>14291 >Personally I think the Chinese members leaving benefitted Exo in the long run since the majority of them (Kris, Tao) were deadweight and Luhan looks like a woman. I don't think so. Kris and especially Luhan were incredibly popular, if you look at their old concerts most girls were holding Luhan signs and screaming his name. Just recently I came across this pic and it's so fucked up that he looked like a literal toddler in his mid 20s and SM brainwashed everybody into thinking that's desirable. I never noticed that back then as a kid, but now as an adult, what the hell ew…
>>14291 >(Kris, Tao) were deadweight and Luhan looks like a woman.
honestly, while kris leaving saddened me but it was better for him to leave. he originally didn't even want to be a singer but an actor. i really would have liked for tao and luhan to stay, if they weren't being mistreated. but i cannot deny, exo as twelve was something special. tao's raps and martial arts added something group along with luhan's vocals, and kris' leadership as the leader of EXO-M. and their 'powers' were some of the most interesting in the group. it's something that can't be recreated. god i loved luhan's voice in exo's songs. actually a lot of fans had liked luhan's looks, myself included. he's always looked like a woman from childhood, but it's obvious he got ps done.
honestly, feel like exo's success might've been better if china-line had stayed. EXO-M had already promoted in china and EXO as a whole had went on happy camp and other chinese tv shows, and they seemed very popular. the concerts they had in china made me also think so as well. i'm not sure if exo is still popular in china as they were back then, but seeing china-line's success from leaving exo and lay's current popularity makes it seem that EXO definitely lost a major opportunity.
>>14290 i'm sorry, i couldn't help it. >this video has always been ingrained in the back of my head for years
>>14294 I agree, I always liked Luhan the best out of all of china line. His voice is super unique and EXO-M always sounded better to me. I used to listen to his solo songs a lot and get back to them even nowadays. He definitely does not look as cute as he did in '12, though.
>>14292 samefag but the way they were like 'i can't believe we are popular/got show wins/got fans at all' was mad annoying too. you're from yg of course you're gonna do well, stop pretending to be shocked
>>14295 >I agree, I always liked Luhan the best out of all of china line. His voice is super unique and EXO-M always sounded better to me.
same here, anon. i was a huge EXO-M fan and luhan was my bias. it wasn't until rumors that he was about to leave came up that i really started paying attention to EXO-K. luhan's voice was truly something special. i was just imagining what he would've sounded like on the exodus albums, man. i need to listen to his newer music. i've only really liked football gang and promise. i know he collabed with kris recently. he still looks handsome but he doesn't the same as he did back when he was in exo. that ash-brown/blonde color has always looked amazing on him
>>14294 >>14295 >>14298 Not sure of it's just nostalgia but under most early exo songs people comment that they prefer exo-m. Some say that a deeper voice (do) is missing in m, but I always really liked how luhan and lay's voices blended together.
Did anybody else notice that the fanservice in earlier kpop was much more extreme, also in their lyrics and dances? In comparison to that 4th gen groups barely do anything (but their fans simp just as hard)
>>14307 here is getty for you then, as unedited as they come. Personally I agree with >>14306 He really looks innocent, but not in a good way. From sides it doesn't look that bad but from the front he has such weird kid aura. Also his features, how come he has attractive features but still ends up looking off in some way?
>>14308 >>14309 >>14311 you're delusional. he looks like fucking JB from GOT7. why do smfags hype him as CGI is a mystery, what is exceptional about his features? him looking like a bug?
But seriously, I didn't finish the doc. It was pretty boring to me but bp is just a boring group lol. I like how pretty they are and their fashion but there's not much else going. I hoped the new album would be something different but it was also just very okay I only liked about 2 songs.
>>14323 What is your point? jaejoong also definitely got way more than eyelid surgery, he's had like 3 nose jobs at minimum. none of this makes taeyong any less of a ripoff, stop your plastic surgery coping
>>14329 Ty is already botched and will never amount to anything more than being an NCT member sm desperately tried and failed to push into the mainstream
>>14299 there's absolutely nothing milky, unless if you count jisoo saying her peers used to say she's ugly and called her 'monkey' as milk. it's just very very bland
Sm is filing lawsuits in before Smngg’s debut so it’s clear Yoo Jimin is debuting They’re gonna be branded the girl group from SM that had a member that mocked her seniors and said she wanted to have sex with Nct for LIFEEEE Even though it’s fake it really had an impact A Pann post on her was trending for 2 weeks Apparently the GG name is LYFE, and they were supposed to debut with a rough concept but the song (Siren) got sold to the Keeho dudes group Also rumors say that a lot of Sm female trainees left because they thought the group would fail so…
>>14352 Writing camp from February that leaked and the Baek and SUPERM songs were released so make a prediction of how hard SMNGG will flop eith this “Siren” esque concept
>>14354 I don’t trust SM with debuts lol Out of all their artists only 3 have had successful debuts and both debuted with cute concepts I don’t want anything experimental from them seeing what happened w SUPERM and Nct
Also some anons discussed why Hansol was dropped and Yuta kept, but Yuta was oddly popular at debut and Hansol was not at all. Yuta was even more popular than Ten in the beginning.
SM botched him and kept giving him scraggly haircuts that make him look like he doesn't bathe and his popularity disappeared.
I loved the concept for Super M but their songs, besides Jopping, were all forgettable and the content they put out is unbearable to watch. I stopped following.
It will be experimental. They let all their prettiest and known female trainees go (or they quit), so they must have completely scrapped whatever plans they had years ago and started fresh with some new idea.
>>14361 Yes they were probably sold or scrapped. This is from writing camp, they weren’t official Like i said, even Siren who was listed for SMNGG got sold to P1Harmony
wow … the importance of lip corners. I don't find him attractive in the least bit and I'm one thirsty bitch. The disgusting white blur filter isn't helping him at all.
He made the worst decision of his life. Teil was the same age as Hansol and stuck it out. Taeil's getting a free ride by belting out a few high notes every now and then.
please keep the twitterfaggotry on twitter where it belongs. no one gives a single fuck about the excruciatingly boring domestic lives of those needle dicks and that goes double for their maid.
there's a reason why he is known only for being called a fat piece of shit by all six of his more popular co-workers as well as both his and their fans.
Kun is one of the weirdest cases in sm. Both his personality and voice are extremely forgettable and all he has to offer is fat lips and mediocre dancing skills. Even members like Johnny and winwin have more to offer than him.
>>14384 For real kun is basically what taeil would be if he couldn't sing. It's true that people forget he exists until it's time to moralfag because someone called him fat or a pig or a mom again.
>>14379 >>14381 >>14387 >"somebody" calls him fat Lucasfag(s) you couldn't be any more transparent. Absolutely pathetic, solely hating him because your oppar got shit for being a brainless scrote.
>>14388 >>14386 >>14389 Every single member of wayv has called him fat and/or a naggy boomer on at least one occasion. Are these all you samefagging to wk him? Kek his grating, nasal voice isn't any better than johnny and his retard lisp.
tired of overly ps'd uggos and moderately listenable music? come join us cpop fans who have even worse music but the occasional hot guy among the hundreds of uglies
>>14390 i'm not wk him, but you can't say johnny could have done this. it's not something extraordinary, but i appreciated him being able to hold a note at least
>>14398 Nice. The like to dislike ratio is quite telling, it's obvious that close to none fans actually dropped him. I bet those couple protesters were ratmys and nctfags kek
>>14391 Who is he? He is pretty. I've always liked very particular Korean idols but I feel like Chinese idols are..more attractive on average, idk why, I feel like they have nicer jaws/eyebrows
>>14403 bi wenjun, he acts these days but his group (nex7) released a single earlier this month (yes i am the nex7fag/cpopfag from a couple of threads ago and yes i will keep telling people to talk with me about cpop)
>>14390 >Every single member of wayv has called him fat and/or a naggy boomer on at least one occasion. That's because they're pathetic manlets who copy or laugh at what your fratboy does to please their preteen audience who likes "crackheads". >samefagging Just imagine, there's more than one person tired of you continuously spamming him and simultaneously trying to make him some sort of victim of Kai while also justifying him being a clown on camera towards Kun because the latter is boring. There are easily a 100 idols who are more relevant than him, can we please go one hour without you pushing him into our faces?
>>14410 The girl in that picture actually hates him lol. When she posted that picture fans pulled up a lot of shit she used to say about him on her account
>>14404 Out of all the cute chinese guys you could've choosen… His face, his permanent smile is kind of creepy (oddly feminine?), dude gets mogged in his latest drama
can someone explain why idols get so much unnecessary ps? most of them get like ton of work and it makes them look so fucking botched and weird? example pic: almost all of them have that gangnam unnie vibe or look going on and look so swollen?
>>14432 PLEASE LOVE HIM Spoiled potential tbh he would be an it boy with the right training if he went to an agency like SM or something I JUST WANT HIM TO SUCCEED
>>14431 Id honestly rather hang myself than stan BTS so no I'm >>14432 >>14403 >>14407 >>14234 Take your meds, someone shit talking BP does not make them a ratmy
>>14435 Koreans weirdly like plump faces I remember the bashing against Nana for her chiseled model esque face structure So she later got botox for a rounder face
>>14439 Seek therapy if you genuinely believe in your mind that two posters 19 hours apart are the same people because they're shitting on BP, arguably the most popular kpop group at the current moment, and that this somehow makes them ratmys. Schizophrenia starts in the early 20s, seek help while you can
>>14435 Idk, seems like the beauty standard over there is only adjusted to one face shape and therefore a ton of them end up looking weird.
A few threads back someone mentioned that the actor Olivia Hussey is considered to have ”the ideal face”, pic related is Oh My Girl Jiho and Oliva Hye (I think) from loona, who are supposed to resemble her. Maybe that’s why korean clothing brands like hiring Siberian models too.
>>14435 samefag just looked at the new twice teasers and i am so confused? they all look so weird especially nayeon who looks like voldemort now with her new nose do onces not realize how much different they look?
>>14447 I found Yanan pretty cute, but I saw him on a chinese show and he was so shy/anxious, he had some sort of mental breakdown. Pentagon seems to be super unlucky.
>>14450 I literally couldn’t recognize mina at first, she’s the one sitting in the chair next to dahyun right? did she get something done on her mental health break ??
>>14450 They’re trying so hard to go into the “modern woman” concept Jyp shouldve learnt from SM and done a concept change like in their second year like Soshi did from cute concepts Instead they dragged the cute concepts for 4 years lol Tzuyu looks bad can they give her natural brows back !!!
Why do fans say that they’re proud of their oppars after they blurt out a few words in English, acting like their idols are infants who have never heard another languge than Korean lol.
>>14450 4 of them are unrecognizable kek wtf, and Jeongyeon looks like a 50 year old real estate agent with that outfit/hair/styling holy fuck. Why do they always make her look so weird and ugly when she isn't an ugly girl
>>14459 samefag the vline surgery fucked her up her skin is already sagging and is creating a double chin how bad will it look in 10 years if it looks this horrific after few years kek
>>14455 fans are stupid for blindingly praising everything idols do but you have to be a native speaker to think english is an easy to learn, essential skill for singers.
>>14452 Oof I just read that he rejoins Pentagon activities in October after being on hiatus since mid 2018, weird af. They probably tested the waters in China but it didn't really work out for him.
>>14463 i was just looking at her eyes wondering why they looked so off, this explains it. wtf are those lines supposed to be makeup? or badly drawn double eyelids lol. looks edited in
Hina left SM after 10 years I hate SM Debuted that fugly bitch Shitaro after 3 months of training and kicked out Hina, Koeun and Lami the face of the SMNGG brand? FUCK U
>>14466 We've talked about this before, except the chinese girl all female trainees were female shotarus. Are there any left at this point? I guess their next gg will also consist of kids they found on tiktok a couple weeks prior.
>>14467 Nope the first SMNGG female trainees were all really pretty, although the prettiest left now I guess But they’re not immensely talented or have a Taeyeon, Luna, or Bada that can carry them They already finalized the GG I guess that’s why Hina made it official and made her IG public (Pic related 1/3)
>>14471 Honestly they all cute and talented. When they were on the mickymouseclub they outshined the dream boys yet they all got to debut. It’s really unfair
>>14476 >>14478 Why is he the most hyped up member? I seriously need to know. I saw this teaser trending hard on Twitter and Reddit but it is just another cowboy teaser. And don't get me started on one of his posters berating us the past 2 weeks. I like Soobin more.
>>> can't imagine training for 10 years only to not make it into any group This is just cruel at this point people really romanticize kpop Training when it’s simply exploitation to put a young person on hold for so many years
>>14331 I haven't heard any songs from this group since this (their debut) but I really like this song. >>14403 > Chinese idols are..more attractive on average I think 1) bigger population, more genetic diversity and 2) Chinese beauty standards aren't as rigid imo, so idols probably don't feel AS much of a need to get weird surgeries like jaw shaves (not that it doesn't happen). Chinese male idols definitely feel more 'manly' on average. I can't get into Chinese music bc the songs aren't as good and I don't like the sound of the language. >>14409 The song still sucks but this lineup is surprisingly the best that SM has had, probably because there's no Taeil or Johnny. Taeyong has always been overrated imo but Xiaojun in the center at the end just further cements how overrated TY's "stage presence" is. I know people complain about Mark being in every subunit but Mark has at least got a decent flow for a rapper. Taeyong brings nothing to the group musically. Will there ever be an NCT subunit (sans Dream and WayV) that he isn't in?
>>14435 WJSN is one of those groups that I think deserves the nugudom. Their songs are mediocre, their concepts are bland, and the members look more and more plastic with each comeback. They're basically the >>14438 They hate any appearance of bone structure to the point that it's not uncommon to have surgery to shave your cheekbones if they're prominent/high. But the funny thing is that those standards don't apply to non-Asian foreigners at all. I think most Koreans find Angelina Jolie to be beautiful for instance. >>14450 WHAT IS GOING ON WITH JEONGYEON'S NOSE
>>14479 well one of them is yoo Jimin and the one time where she was a backup dancer for Taemin her movement were stiff and overall not impressive. I was so excited for sm new girlgroup but now I don’t know how to feel
>>14486 >Will there ever be an NCT subunit (sans Dream and WayV) that he isn't in? He's only in two units though (127 and U). So what are you talking about lmao? Like you said, he's not in Dream or WayV, so it's not like he's infiltrating every unit. Also >I don't like the sound of the language. I've seen a lot of K-pop stans saying this about Chinese and how it's the reason they can't get into C-pop but I've always found it funny since I feel the same way about Korean. I'm more desensitized to the language now that I've heard more songs but I still don't think it's the most beautiful language ever like a lot of people do. I get I'm probably talking to the wrong crowd since the majority of you are Koreaboos but is there anyone else here who doesn't really like the sound of Korean but puts up with it for the songs that they like?
>>14490 Nine Muses are proof that moids hate tall women (unless they're pedobait Wonyoung). As a kid I always found their lack of success mindbaffling, but now I get it… It was a similar case for After School and maybe Rainbow too.
>>14491 Korean also sounded weird to everybody until people got into kpop and now it's shilled as the sweetest, most relaxing language ever.
>>14491 Hmm idk i dont like chinese way before knowing kpop, it's very harsh and those xie xie types of sound arent cute. Also as a lot of songwriters and chinese ppl have said the usual western pop melody is not adequate to chinese intonation so it even sounds wacky/difficult to understand to chinese people. I've seen in some video (AsianBoss i think) that that's the reason why they mostly had ballad songs
>>14491 I don't exactly dislike how Korean sounds but I don't find it any more pleasant than Chinese, I think they both sound okay. There are some Korean words/phrases that stand out to me as sounding kind of silly/ugly though, so I never got why other koreaboos keep shilling it as a beautiful language. For example there's a part in Sistar's Alone that sounds like they're saying 'oolgo boolgo' and I cannot hear something like that as sultry no matter how much they try.
>>14493 I've heard this about Chinese too, like rap is really popular in China right now and I once asked someone how it worked since I thought the tones would make it difficult to rap in Chinese and they basically just said that Chinese rappers hardly bother with the tones and you just have to kinda try and figure out what they're saying from vague context lol
>>14483 >1. [+637, -15] This was all set up~ I feel bad for the people who fell for it ㅠ >2. [+517, -38] Want to know why Big Hit's prices fell? Because the military said "we have never discussed enlistment perks for BTS" so they rushed the listing…
Her legs look shopped. They dress her a lot older than her age. At least she isn't pedobaiting, her image is kind of like pretty and glam girl that other girls want to be?
It was gross when she went on a show and said that she doesn't want to grow any taller than 5'7 looks like she knows incel opinions
>>14498 Without or with less makeup she looks like an extremely young and sweet girl. Look how narrow her frame still is next to that adult makeup artist, she's just a tall kid.
>>14410 I used to like him for a short while until I saw this picture last year. Jfc I don’t think I’ve ever seen an idol look this bad in a candid before
I can't stand the fucking voice she talks in… its that Korean whiny cutsey voice some Korean girls do where every single word they say sounds like they are whining and elongating the aaaaaa at the end JESUS someone who is Korean please confirm that this is only done for TV because I would end it all if I had to listen to that shit irl.
>>14497 >[+353, -33] Their stock has no worth at all. The minute the BTS kids enlist in the army, your stocks are nothing but pieces of papers. Paying 300,000 won for that? What a joke. >[+49, -4] No matter how famous BTS is right now, it's not like their fame will last forever, and it's not like Big Hit has a history of launching new groups back to back like other entertainment companies. They're a bubble. BTS got famous off of a unique situation that timed perfectly with the rise of YouTube, and I don't think Big Hit is in a position where you can predict their next groups to be hits too like the other companies.
Absolutely. But the english comments are all trying to do damage control again… >It's your fault, not bighit's. >I don't think the investor are the one who whine in the comment section? T They definitely are. There was an article about a grandma taking a loan, a lot of foolish fans (maybe even kids) with zero experience are amongst the people who bought them. >People in the comments acting like they know how the stock market work lmao >Bh said they aren't focusing on debuting groups constantly bc they're investing on IT/GAMES -> which goes to show you how unconfident they are about creating new succesful groups kek
>>14505 Reddit is full of retards asking how to buy those stocks and they dont even know the most basic thing about stock markets. People legit have to explain what is a net worth and how BTS doesnt actually suddenly have 20 million in cash. Kinda sad to see that level of ignorance.
BigHit would have been better off if they debuted a girl group after BTS but before TXT. Girl groups are better in the general public's eyes and them performing with BTS would have gained the girl group so much buzz. Look at Big Bang and 2NE1 for instance. TXT now are still behind BTS's shadow and Enhypen is a wildcard. Buying out Seventeen and Gfriend was a good call to survive without BTS for a few years but Seventeen will never have a global reach and Gfriend are charting worse and worse in Korea. Stock in BigHit is not what you want to invest in right now. They need the Iland girl group and the new girl group to become hits in Korea.
The woman who got that message said that she asked him to tell her something that would make her heart race. Plus it was in 2016, making him only a teen (and their maknae 15/16)
>>14524 This photo is too pink hued, it's definetly gone thru lightroom edition, as well as many others from that article. They're just a little less tweaked.
>>14535 Lucas would've called her fat instead of being flirty. No but seriously, you as a lucasfag should know best how creepy pedonoonas can be, just a couple days ago somebody posted an incident involving him and a 40+yo. I'm not saying eunwoo is an uwu baby in need of protection, but neither is he a harasser nor is she a victim either.
>>14539 >number of times lucas was mentioned in this thread: 53 >number of times eunwoo was mentioned: 5 >number of times lucasfag told others to "take their meds": 3 I think I'd be allowed to post eunwoo once more lol
>>14542 also eunwoo fags dont spam or sperg, they just post a picture of their cardboard personality oppa and leave
the dude has the personality of a sponge but he's pretty so there's no conversation around him, meanwhile lucas is all sorts of stupid and ofc the spergy lucasfag makes it worse
>>14545 Astrofag here. There's definitely some tension, he brings 90% of the fans and they know it. The members always talk about how they wish they could be him because he's handsome and way more popular than all of them united, the leader especially seems super bitter. They also joke a lot about his dance skills.
>>14542 Everyone who calls you a retard has got to be a lucasfag, amirite vendettachan? The posts you've made sperging about lucasfags itt outnumber the actual lucasfag posts. Get a grip.
>>14547 Do you have some receipts? I know nothing about astro, I only saw that video and the other guy seems to overcompensate or to try and get attention by being extra loud and clingy (like yuta with mark), they even pointed out that eunwoo is embarrassed because of him
>>14549 I don't have any specific evidence to give you, it just a feeling I got over time but if you watch any of the "crackheads" videos you'll see what I mean. >the other guy seems to overcompensate or to try and get attention yeah, he feels like he wants to be J-Hope, he's cringe af (vid related is him pretending to poo at 6:58) but he can sing and he's a bit entertaining. When he's here, hosts have something else to talk about other than Eunwoo looks.
>>14491 I like the sound of Korean, Chinese, and Japanese in music. Spoken Mando sounds a bit weird to me but in music I really love it, only came to like it from listening to Luhans solo music kek. I think people just decide beforehand that they don't like the sound of mandarin and never give Chinese music a chance tbh. It's actually really nice imo
I always felt sorry for them because they were jobless for years but it seems as if they nevertheless have enough money to buy themselves gangnam unnie faces…
>>14554 I generally don't think male idols are too skinny and I feel like ppl are overreacting when they say they are alarmingly thin (cos they are guys in their late teens/early 20s so they can eat what they want without gaining weight like most dudes), but Jaemin seriously looks emaciated. Idk if he has an overbite and always looks like that, but his teeth are sticking out from his face exaclty the way an anachan's are
>>14557 i agree, he already was skinny but recent pictures people posted of him are alarming
i thought it was implied he may have an eating disorder? i saw some clip of jisung or jeno repeatedly reading comments by fans begging him to eat, and talking about how he skips meals
Positive post of the day. The only person I've ever sensed Mark having bad tension with is Haechan, and it's funny how those two are pushed as soulmates or whatever. I don't even think they hang out 1:1.
I'm curious though what kind of trouble would Chenle be getting into?
>>14512 This is actually refreshing? except for a few ones everyone looks decent imo, average looking at the very least (except 2 of the Astro dudes which are honestly above average). Reminds you that no one has perfect skin and does not look amazing 24/7 if not carefully posed and edited. idk I just love seeing unphotoshopped pictures, always helps my self steem.
Also maybe it's just me but I think the svt guys look pretty much the same as they usually do, don't know if that's good or not lol It's a general consensus that Dino and SCoups are not handsome, DK always looks like a tengu when smiling, Minghao has a resting bitchface and that hair colour on Vernon washes him out. Only thing that surprised me is that Dino looks much older than he actually is.
>>14563 I just am very well aware that most idols are not as attractive as their companies try to make the public believe they are, so it doesn't really shock me when they end up looking normal without editing. Plus have you gone out there? Men as a whole are usually unattractive compared to woman (be it because we use makeup or whatever), it's hard to have high standards when most guys are buttugly, celebrities or not
Here is your answer ladies. To them starving and restrictive eating is a normal part of life. I also remember Jeno saying that Chenle doesn't listen to him when he tells him not to eat lunch. Chenle has also lost every ounce of extra muscle and weight he had.
Ngl I would kill for that kind of willpower, but I'm sure it messes with their perception of reality and their own body image. This is also why I get annoyed when fatty fans harp on them calling out other members weights and stuff. They all probably think fat people are gross and lazy.
When NCT were in Ukraine, local girls said Xiaojun is 5'5 at most. Imagine my shock when I look at this video and the other dudes are not much taller than him (except Lucas).
He has had that nasty scraggly hair for so long. It always looks unwashed and unkept, put in some nasty half bun. His roots are always coming out and it looks like he dyes his hair at home.
>>14567 sorry for blogpost but when i was dramatically anachan and severely underweight i could barely think, leave my bed, or do anything. it's so clear they're given some kind of substance to even fucking survive, and especially to perform.
i'm disgusted that he's giving this type of "advice" to his young fans. at least keep your proana thoughts to yourself
There's no way the shotarofag isn't one anon (most likely the same weirdo who used to be obsessed with yuta) samefagging. like that's a downgrade from stanning j-hope and rm. how can u not be embarrassed of your nemu-tier taste?
as someone who is still dealing with the lingering issues of self image and lifelong eating disorders, you really dont.
this honestly makes me feel sick, that he's posting these videos nonchalantly promoting anorexic mentalities to his fans who are probably young and impressionable (i know dream has primarily hag fans, but still)
either way its fucking gross and you can tell hes proud of not eating and having "willpower" but it just feels so bad to me to see him harp on about these techniques like it's a healthy thing that should be pushed
>>14570 >>14577 >>14578 Are you guys new to K-pop? I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it's pretty well known that a lot of idols live in small, shitty spaces due to not making enough money and that the majority of idols not only starve themselves but openly admit it and give pro-ana advice to their fans. Like I said, it's not a good thing, but I'm more surprised to see idols that promote healthy eating and discourage their fans from starving themselves than the other way around. I don't think they do it maliciously though, it's pretty obvious that they're just brainwashed from the constant criticism they get on their looks from their companies, the media and netizens.
>>14574 Lmao fans always say he looked "so cute before sm ruined his face!" and I look at the pictures and am just like "really? I don't know about that…"
>>14583 honestly I feel bad for him. even though SM didn't kick him out it seems like a lot of fans have iced him out and they're still review bombing his new music. If they ever promote as a group again I feel like he's gonna end up like Sungmin. At least the members of exo supported chen unlike suju.
>>14586 beginning of the end for what? saying this as an exofag that saw them become the "top" boygroup in 2014-2017 then lose (mostly) international popularity to bts's meteoric rise, it's not really a secret that they're mainly just playing second or third fiddle to bts in terms of overall popularity. they have a particularly strong chinese fanbase which SM will probably continue to milk with members' solo releases. i think i speak for a lot of exo fans but none of us are really surprised at this point
>>14586 Its been wishful thinking for a while. SM as a whole is hanging on by a thread due to RV and now NCT but even then NCT is going to have to compete with Svt who is surprisingly getting more popular. Depending on how successful their new group is SM might just milk anything they can from EXO within the next year before officially disbanding them.
>>14569 he started growing his hair out and every time fans asked him to cut he’d go all “ it’s my body so I choose what to do with it” on them. What a prick, he deserves loosing most of his fans
>>14589 >SM as a whole is hanging on by a thread due to RV and now NCT please, isn't most (if not all) of SM's revenue due to TVXQ's concert tours in japan and exo's physical album sales? RV do well digitally but digitals don't pull in a lot of profit and NCT is basically a net drain on SM at this point
>>14570 >it's so clear they're given some kind of substance to even fucking survive
Could be true but I wouldn't automatically assume that. Models and ballerinas are similar in that they need to remain rail thin while working constantly, especially ballet which is really difficult.
>>14590 > “ it’s my body so I choose what to do with it”
He gained a lil bit of my respect tbh. But a lot of NCT members should have never become idols because they really aren't willing to do what will entail them to be successful as an idol. Taeil, Xiaojun, Chenle to an extent are similar in that they really should have chosen a different path that would gain them more success/make them happier.
>>14589 You guys r too dramatic lol SM is not hanging by a thread, naver just injected them a multimillion dollar investment, plus their business model is diversified at this point unlike big hitteu
>>14592 >assuming that models and ballerinas don't do uppers
>>14596 nct's album sales are only somewhat comparable to exo's because nct has multiple comebacks a year, and planning out a comeback for a group (much less three or four for an extensively planned group with a convoluted rotational unit system) is a huge investment and are usually net losses unless you have bts/2016 exo level sales each time
They both don't play into the idol role a lot. Xiaojun straight up refuses to do aegyo and you can tell he finds a lot of the idol culture cringe. Chenle is pretty good at his job but he hates a lot of the idol stuff too. He seems to value being "real" a lot. Members I'd consider being very good idols are Mark, Jaemin, Jisung, Jungwoo, Lucas
Speaking of Jaemin I don’t keep up with Dream but I thought he was the member with fake idol personality but in this he is so awkward and quiet especially with Xiao jun
>>14599 i think thats just what happens when you have 23 people in a group but they're all in designated groups/distant from each other. jaemin is more outgoing w dream but i bet its bc those are the people he's been around the most. i wouldn't be surprised if him and xiojun just have clashing personalities
nct as a whole gives me weird vibes i don't understand why the fans like to stress the "they're all a big family" angle especially considering every other vlive a member is talking about how they've never really talked/interacted with x member or being told to act like they're best friends when really theyre not very close
>>14583 The way they enlist is actually pretty smart? Xiumin had to enlist last year, Do enlisted early with him, so they will be back at the end of this year, meaning if Chen and Baekhyun enlist now, they'd nevertheless have enough vocals to do concerts (if it wasn't for covid). BTS will likely also have to split Jimin and Jk so that they always have a vocal to carry their songs.
I thought people were exaggerating with the Jaemin/Xiaojun are awkward thing but dear LORD I'd like to highlight my favorite cringe moments from their vlive >Xiaojun about to put his hand on Jaemin's shoulder but then pulling away mid air and never actually touching him > Xiaojun, Jaemin and Jaehyun being in the same team. Jaehyun and Jaemin shake hands happily and Xiaojun's hand just lingers in the air LMAOOOooooo >Xiaojun gets complimented on his hard work by Taeyoung, rather than smiling at him or telling him good job Jaemin turns in his direction and avoids all eye contact >Xiao/Jaem/Jaeh win a point, again Jaemin and Jaehyun shake hands happily, Xiaojun's hand lingers in the air until he pulls it away and makes an awkward gesture with his unshaken hand
>>14593 Honestly good for him, what use is letting SM stuff his chin if he's nevertheless unpopular? Might as well do what he wants. >Taeil, Xiaojun, Chenle If you said Chen I'd get it, but they? Especially Taeil even lets the others treat him like some baby at the age of fucking 26 just because he's short.
>>14598 I agree with the first two. I've never seen a single negative comment about Mark, everybody seems to like him and Jaemin is as close to the perfect idol as one can be: "manages himself" (meaning he's always skinny), constantly smiling, a fanservice machine. That's why his dating scandal wasn't that bad, he just never slipped with his persona (and I'd say that's rare for idols nowadays). >Jisung Doesn't do much in general, he's just there? He's neither playing up the uwu baby shtick, nor is he funny, nor is he flirty. To me he seems the least enthusiastic about being an idol. >Jungwoo Seems shameless and does lots of aegyo but it's a little weird or gross because he's so tall and no longer young. Plus he also looks pissed quite often. And Koreans aren't like westerners who like sassy gays. >Lucas He's too rowdy, one day his lack of brain will cause him to mess up (and especially in China one needs to be smart and careful).
>>14607 Where's the "wayv / chinese idols are visually superior" anon? Jaemin isn't even attractive but Xiaojun looks straight up like the grinch, that chin, that fucked up jawline, that creepy mouth,…
Also how should infighting within the nct fandom ever stop when wayvfags constantly pull shit like this? You can't whine 24/7 about being left out and once you're allowed to join you say you're much better anyway. I'ver never seen dream or 127fags post similar claims.
>>14595 Sm has gone through this phase a lot of times. SM had the same dilemma like they have now back in the 2000s up until BoA and TVXQ debuted They’ll just debut the next super group or soloist then they’ll be on track again
I forgot to add haechan lol even though hes messy hes super entertaining, shameless and gets away with being a bitch because he's the only funny member in nct.
Jisung is really careful with everything, I can NEVER see him slipping up. Whenever I watch vlives he's super hyperaware of what to say to not offend anyone. He's also very concerned with his image and the only time we have seen a glimpse of who he may be behind his persona was a unplanned phone call with Jeno.
I put Lucas and Jungwoo because they are both shameless and will do whatever they have to do. I feel like to be an idol you need these traits. You're right about Jungwoo though, fans are still hung up about his uwu persona, but I don't think hes soft and cute at all, complete opposite actually.
>>14589 Sm doesn’t disband groups after SHINHWA They aren’t gonna lose any popularity as soloists either So they’re pretty much all set for life I don’t understand why people worry for idols like Exo They’ve been holding it down for almost 10 years lol
Why is BIGHIT so retarded thinking they can even compete with Naver The CJ backing has got to their head They can barely hold their employees on a leash and think they will surpass a Big3 label lol?
>>14619 BigHit has no faith in future idol projects due to TXT and soon Enhypen being flops. WeVerse however looks to he a huge success so moving to tech is a pretty good idea.
>>14607 LOL this was painful to watch, during the unboxing video they were also sat next to each other Xiaojun didn’t speak the whole time until Lucas asked him something
Something about Shotaros mouth and teeth looks really weird when he laughs. He looks actually retarded. When sitting he has bad posture like he is slouching. When it comes to performance he fits well but outside of that he sticks out like a sore thumb
I translated the new sasaeng tweets: - A quarrel happened recently between two members of a popular group, it started when one of them commented about the behavior of the other: "Hyung, you like attracting attention a lot." - Lisa hasn't confessed to any idol yet, her datings always starts with the other party's confession - While suffering from all these pressures, he is being told to act like a funny and positive person, he is really tired and can not bear any more! - The relationship of Exo members with the agency is so much tense lately, so tense that one of them was thinking about revealing some things publicly! - IU x Jihyo - They are working on a show that will include BTS as judges. It is not yet certain whether they will be some or all of the members in it. - Jenny did some help in Rosie's Solo , I don't know if they'll show it - Rosie's Solo in November - Jimin had some problems recently, unrelated to the group .. - There is a disaster in one of the agencies and no one is aware of it. The idols are forced to go out and have sexual relations with influential people, and if they refuse, they are threatened with exposing them and destroying their image, and the contract is used against them! So far, there have been two failed suicides due to this matter. Not a big company - Suga is thinking of establishing his own agency in the future - Did you wonder why the media insist so much about the date of BTS's enlistment? Well, once jin enlist, you will see what happens .. - Cube uses the dating of GIdle member as a trump card
>>14630 I have no idea. I remember someone asked her about it and she said she is in a sasaeng korean/japanese chat circle (?) And they tend to shere a lot of info between them.
To that anon who said they liked Dancing in the Rain, do Johnny and Jungwoo's voices ruin it for you too? Everyone else sounds so good but when their parts come on it immediately brings the quality down for me.
Does anyone else watch Edward Avila? Sometimes I watch his idol videos as a guilty pleasure… I accept all the ridicule that will come from anons for this. He made a video with Jessi and it was bad tbh. It could have been so much better. He talked very little, she basically interviewed herself, it was unprofessional of him. Jessi also said PSY has a say in all of P nation's artists songs and now I can really see the boomer touch and I understand why they all suck lmao.
>>14645 i almost feel bad for their delusional and tragic fans. they way they're encouraging young ppl to spend their money on stuff they don't understand, kek
>>14647 Yesterday yt recommended this to me and the first thing I noticed was that this video is supposed to be about her, yet she's more in the back, her hand covering half her face, while his giant laughing head fills up the screen. Fucking narc. >PSY has a say in all of P nation's artists songs and now I can really see the boomer touch kek
>>14648 I also greatly dislike him, now he's often interviewing flop idols, always hitting on the guys and they of course have to go along with his flirting, yikes… Plus his makeup is absolutely awful. And if a girl acted as kbooish as him (constantly throwing in korean words) she wouldn't have a million subs, she'd be in one of those kboo cringe compilations.
>>14639 Maybe someone’s dating a top actor or chaebol who knows Girls day got more known as well when their agency basically outed that Hyeri dated Tony Ahn lol
>>14498 Kek she's got to be 5'11+ in this pic, no way she's only 5'7..her legs are so long, she looks honestly around 5'10+ Why do they make her lie about her height. It's weird and gross.
>>14647 he is extremely obnoxious, as an interviewer and youtuber. he has a very specific sense of humor that not everyone he makes videos with vibes with but he's too self centered to care. guy's a joke
>>14648 It's unfortunate, from what I know he's had 2 rhinoplasties, fillers, botox, skin treatments, used skin whitening creams and he still looks like that kek.
>>14640 Jungwoo's voice sounds okay to me, it's not the nicest but I don't hate it. Johnny's parts are pretty bad though, but I can kinda overlook them bc I've heard worse from him (Misfit for example) - and I mostly like this song for its jazzy feel, I don't really pay attention to the different parts. But yeah I agree the song would be better without them.
>>14650 > And if a girl acted as kbooish as him (constantly throwing in korean words) she wouldn't have a million subs, she'd be in one of those kboo cringe compilations.
not to mention he's colorist af, and a huge fatshamer with a giant ego
dude is a piece of egotistical shit but apparently gets a pass because he's a man who wears makeup and is "sassy and savage" when in reality he's just a giant fucking asshole
>>14645 >>14649 Can anyone who understands economy and stock explain what's going on? I'm praying for bh's downfall but I know nothing about economy and shit
>>14658 >huge fatshamer Not defending him, fuck him for being a colorist but anons make fun of idols weights/bodies all the time here and lot of anons come from lolcow which is full of anachans calling every single cow fat and nitpicking everyone's body
>>14647 I can't stand him honestly his interview with loona was awful. he is never going to be the idol he wanted to be and Aoora needs to hang it up too
>>14668 not to mention he called people who experienced skincolor discrimination in SEA countries "drama queens" as if he isnt naturally dark and religiously lightens his skin
plus his makeup skills are trash and his foundation never matches his neck kek
>>14663 >>14668 >i think its different when he's a semi-public figure with thousands of viewers nitpicking how fat this idol is on a public platform Exactly this. We laugh in semi-private, he's basically justifying people bullying her to an audience of 1.5 millions, about a 15-year-old girl.