/b/ - Random

>>118220
Came to say this

>>118217
Hontra being in any way "passable" and in top 30% of troons sounds ridiculous to say at least. And they are delusional to think that "passoids" with an "androgynous" (male) frame are in any way undistinguishable from women

>>118216
>mfw troons may manage to stop infant circumcision in America
Perhaps they will do one positive thing before being discarted into the dustbin of human history.

>>118217
>hontrapoints
>passes
No.

>>118217
Wasted 5 mins of my life reading /tttt/ jargon. Who gives a shlt, they’re all hons and freaks in the end. They hate old women, even in themselves, and will detrans/rope once they lose their sex appeal.

>>118217
Conveniently does not mention voice at all. Curated pictures on the internet are one thing, but actually seeing (and more importantly hearing) someone in real life is a whole other story.

>>118215
Those breast removal scars and self-harm scars are one in the same.

>>118039
Don't be mean. Just because somebody made an irreversible mistake doesn't mean you get to mock their body.

>>118215
I've always wondered how moids treat women who "transition" to moids, they treat each other like shit already over far more irrelevant issues, I can't even imagine to what they'd say/do to someone like this or Ellen Page.

>>118230
Yeah, the concept of someone having that much mental anguish is just so sad. I just feel bad for the poor girl.

>>118232
*unless they are male

>>118227
LMAO that's not contra dude that's narcissa the mtf twitch streamer

>>118236
Can we report this autist to post this in every single thread?

>>118217
I laughed at the skeletons in hell

>>118237
Males don't exist anon, they're just a myth so you eat your vegetables.

>>118216
>you’re a terf and deserve worse
he said to a 4-year old gambian girl slowly dying of her wounds.
seriously fuck that guy. white male arrogance knows no limits.

>>118217
Hunter Schaefer is an obvious man, they conveniently never post full body pics showing the boxy manbody, narrow hips and absence of waist. He could've just been a cute feminine boy but noooooo

>>118229
I imagine voice would be covered in the upper tiers by the fact they literally do not go through male puberty. Might be wrong though.

Trannies have pulled the old switcheroo where they initially claimed to have an inborn mental disorder so we would pity and want to help them, and then once that was accomplished, reverse uno’d it into never being a mental illness after all and it’s just normal and healthy. You can see this same thing happening with other stuff like fat acceptance. Pedos are trying to do step 1 right now.

>>118239
literally whats the point of posting this at every terf thread

who do you think will troon out in 2022? i'm betting big joel or vaush

>>118267
Egoraptor, although if he was ever going to do it, I think he might have done it by now. Maybe Anisa. Maybe Drew Monson. Schaffrillas seems autistic enough. Who knows, maybe even Ethan or Hila.

>>118233
They probably see transmen as mutilated women just like everyone does, except without any empathy. Especially the ones that aren't fully transitioned

>>118229
Yeah I doubt there is a troon that looks like a real woman in real life. that's why you don't trust any selfies troons post on the internet, they edit the just as much as your average BDD haver

>>118232
How is she mocking them?

>>118230
Not really. Unintentional harm is not self harm.

>>118247
Right? Most troons are ugly orcs but some of them are cute af pre-transition

>>118233
Things I've heard and read over the years:

"I kind of want to get in a fight with him [Page] just so I can know how it feels to fight a girl"

"They're pretty easy to spot. They all have scraggly little pube beards because they think it'll help them pass. But it actually makes them easier to spot, because twinks usually have no facial hair".

"We have evolved to tell if someone is a potential mate or competitor just with a glance. If they look inbetween, they go in the uncanny valley bin. This applies to both MTF and FTM."

"They think they have an easier time passing because HRT drops their voices. But they just end up sounding like gay dudes"

"So many of them are doing it because they got abused. Back in the day, it was just sufficient to get fat or shave their head. But big pharma had to make money off of it".

"Just wait til he [Page] learns how awful it is to be a manlet. I have more respect for Hons than I do for manlets, because Hons are over 6ft. OK maybe not but you know what I mean"

"Lesbians will sooner date an FTM than an MTF, which says a lot about MTFs. The Chris Chan strategy doesn't work".

"Do you think pre-wall FTMs can do sex work if their careers fail? If I was a fuckable cis woman, I'd be comforted knowing I had the option to strip or whore if all else failed. Shit, I'd rather do Gay 4 Pay than work for Amazon. FTM sounds like a really small niche for porn. And they don't have the tradwife route either. I guess that's why I see so many of them wagecucking at Starbucks and Target."

"If I was an FTM, I'd spend a lot of time with ladies. Dudes are brutal to each other. FTMs didn't grow up as dudes, so they can't understand the difference between bants and bullying. Women are brutal in their own way but at least FTMs remember what it looks like".

[From a gay friend]
"I just wish the MTFs and FTMs would cancel each other out. But they're both such disordered people in their own ways that it won't happen. I guess it's because MTFs are men and FTMs are women. And they're both larping as the opposite gender, which adds an extra layer of complexity."

[Same gay friend]
"I've had sex with cis women. It's OK. But even sitting at the same table as a transman is almost unbearable. They can't go one minute without mentioning that they're trans. They're like vegans".

Thoughts on this? It's one of the better pro-ftm posts I've read, but it also reeks of "being a woman is fine as long as /I/ don't have to do it, ewww"

>>118295
i fully support women not being feminine but saying they are not women (bc of it) is not the way to go

>>118295
Word salad

>>118263

The legal system has long accepted the "pedophilia is a treatable mental illness" defense from pedos who can afford lawyers that can argue it. Same way they allow actual rapists to use the sex addiction defense. Society has a weird disconnect by how evil pedos are considered, and how they're actually treated unless they have something else going on to make them reviled on top of being a pedo. Medicalization plays a significant role in this. If something can be medicalized, it can be decriminalized.

>>118306
Reminded me of this.

>>118294
>Lesbians will sooner date an FTM than an MTF
This part is true. It’s hilarious to watch rapehons seethe tremendously every time lesbians bring up hot FTMs, and because of the historical association with L and FTM, they are unable to ban the lesbians for it. Even in handmaiden subreddits like /r/butchlesbians.

>>118294
It's more or less what I expected minus the physical abuse. Poor girls.

>>118277
>Seeing those fucking scars on TIFs makes me want to puke and cry. It physically hurts just thinking about them, it makes me so sick.
She says seeing their body makes her physically sick. Even if it was true, it is not a nice thing to say out loud. I have seen genetic disorders and trauma victims that are terrible to look at, and they know they are not beautiful, but I don't go online and tell everyone how disgusting they are to look at.

>>118278
I think she's saying that they are intentional self harm scars. That when a TIF (who are overwhelmingly rape victims) cuts off her breasts, it is not because she wants to be a man, but because she cannot stand to be a woman and live in our patriarchal world.

>>118295
You can't abandon the sisterhood, membership starts at conception and never ends.
>>118297 has it right. You can't say you're not a women because you have interests without implying that those who are women don't have interests.

Saw this posted on a 4chan thread, I can't get it out of my head
https://vocaroo.com/1isvman1o3wm

>>118233
In my experience, they tend to look right past them, like they don't exist or are unimportant. I shared a flat with an ftm once, and a guy acquaintance said he didn't even notice she was ftm, he just thought it was a gay dude. Mtfs receive a bulk of the hate from men, and I'm curious as to why. A lot of them claim it's because they're predators, but I seriously doubt men actually give a shit about our safety. Maybe it's because it's more noticeable that there's something wrong with an mtf, or because moids are disgusted by the thought of accidentally ending up with a dick-having "woman", like it threatens their masculinity.

>>118340
was that on /tv/? they have a lot of songs like that, i love them
>>118233
i've never seen it irl but on 4chan they get furious about it. pic related.

>>118340
To moids, there is no sense of accomplishment if it’s just a fellow horny moid in a dress.
And their ego is hurt, after being tricked into being a living dildo for some gender fetishist, who just used him the same way he uses women.
To be the devil’s advocate (as a lesbian), it is like making someone eat human flesh, and only telling them afterwards, and then assuring that they’re not actually cannibals because the human in question identified as a chicken and consented to it.

>>118363
I saw it on /lit/, I don't browse /tv/, wish I did so I could hear more.

I don't think they hate mtfs, they just hate the culture. From that picture, they're acting as if something is being taken from them, but they're never as nasty or vicious towards the actual tranny as they are towards mtfs.

>>118364
>there is no sense of accomplishment if it’s just a fellow horny moid in a dress

That's right, I forgot that we're just a prize for them. I'm surprised they don't brag about how many trannies they've fucked, the scrotes at my high school once competed to see who could fuck the "ugliest" girl, almost like it was showing how courageous they were or some shit that they could 'tough out' being with someone they find repulsive for more than what I imagine was a meager 2 minutes. Shit like that made me distrustful of any moid who ever approached me.

The flesh analogy sounds plausible too, it's probably a bit of both.

>>118232
NTA but I think the disgust is directed less towards the girl and more towards TRAs for promoting this as a win and grooming vulnerable kids into this in the first place, along with surgeons like Gallagher who perform elective, life altering surgeries on literal children.

I give it at most 10 years before he troons out

>>118267
Put me down for Quinton Reviews

>>118317
I'm not denying that they do it because they hate themselves for being women, I'm saying that it's not self harm. If they had the option to become fully male without having to undergo any surgeries and they chose it, than it's not self harm because they don't enjoy/want the surgeries. Most people misunderstand what self harm is.If you're causing harm to yourself INTENTIONALLY and KNOWING that it's harmful then yes it's self harm

>>118267
i can see strange aeons but i still wouldn’t count on it

>>118457
Nta but having your healthy breasts removed is a deliberate injury to yourself because of a psychological disorder.

Isn’t tranny shit just another way for scrotes to control us? Only TIMs have the authority to determine who’s a woman and who’s not. They even police TIFs who date lesbians.

>be me
>female friend sees cute person in public
>”should I ask for their number?”
>yeah why not
>didn’t realize they were a troon until after they started hanging out, would’ve said don’t bother them otherwise
>friend comes out as trans shortly after meeting them
>wow that was fast

now they’re telling me about shit like “muffing” (fucking puke) and saying shit about how they don’t relate to cis people despite never saying shit like this before. I feel partially responsible for this too. not a good feeling.

>>118551
Wtf is muffing? Do I wanna know?

>>118552
From this article: https://www.vice.com/en/article/59dxw3/a-guide-to-muffing-the-hidden-way-to-finger-trans-women
>it involves penetrating orifices that most people don't know exist. In order to understand the act, you first need to understand the anatomy involved: Bellwether describes the act as "being [finger-]fucked in one or both of my inguinal canals," which are, as she puts it, the "twin 'pockets' that are situated in the groin above and behind the testicles and scrotum."
Anyway, trans”women” are fucking disgusting

>>118383
Holy shit you might be right

>>118512
I'd say it is to a degree, especially since TIMs are basically the overlords of trans communities; just look on any liberal trabs tumblr blog and you'll see post from TIMs talking about how they're the most uniquely oppressed, and you'll see TIFs suck up to it by putting disclaimers all over their blog about how they're less oppressed than TIMs and therefore not as important. the trans world is the same as real life but the men have bad makeup lmao

>>118340
found another, really like this one.
https://vocaroo.com/1hWQn1Z5Rftv
>>118565
huh, in an earlier thread i learned that "tucking" involves shoving the testicles in there so trannies can wear tight pants without their balls showing. i wonder if thats mastrubatory as well.

>>118433
>I'm not denying that they do it because they hate themselves . . .I'm saying that it's not self harm.
Those are contradictory. It's like saying cutting wouldn't be self harm if we had the technology to heal instantly. It's still harm, the effects are just mitigated.
>INTENTIONALLY and KNOWING that it's harmful
Not true at all. Not only can self harm be subconscious (chopping off your hair after a break up because you want "a fresh look") but we classify the actions of retarded who have no higher brain function who hurt themselves as self harm. Medically, self harm is defined as a creature hurting itself, it doesn't have to be aware of why it is hurting itself or even have the consciousness be aware that it is hurting itself.

>>118510
This.

>>118225
Peak woke capitalism

>>118232
>>118316
The disgust and sadness comes from how brutal those scars look, any woman could feel the pain in their chest just by looking at it. That's not mocking the poor girl for having made a mistake, it's rather feeling bad for her due to how painful it looks. It's also unfortunate that this kind of thing is being shilled as a totally good and normal thing even though it's unnecessary mutilation, which makes it different from suffering an accident or really needing surgery.

I think the only biological women left on reddit are those in teenage (teen girls not knowing anything better), self-harm and eating disorder communities (traces of BPD, CPTSD, child sexual abuse and female gender socialization).
Yes, that includes FTM Aidens and "enbies" these places are rampant with.
The rest of reddit are incels and transcel MTF.

>>118611
True. I have gotten so much shit there, just for being a woman/feminist. Downvotes, DMs, stalkers, you name it. It’s incredible how openly hostile towards AFABs that place is. Yet it is considered a normie website for some reason.

>>118614
>AFABS
Just say “women” anon. Same thing.

>>118615
They hate TIFs as well tho. Gay male subreddits bully them out, and there are hate subreddits for them, such as /r/ftmspunished.

>>118619
That's the point, TIFs are women. And iirc ftmspunished is a fetish sub where self-hating TIFs post themselves.

>>118620
Oh, yeah now I see what you mean. Sry am tired lol.

>>118611
And all the porn subs. They're all over /TwoXChromosomes, /ActualLesbians, /LGBT but for some reason they aren't allowed on the porn subs.

Not bitter

>>118573
>tranimaniacs
I love this on so many levels, thank you anon

>>118639
i've found ftms answering questions or r/askmen a couple times. the say things like "men like sad movoes too" and "men's sex drive really isn't that much different from women's".

>>118383
Seconding this

>>118694
are you retarded

Why do they think posting here makes them women? It’s like saying that every woman posting to 4chan is a moid, because they pretend to be moids.

i hate how tradthots have appropriated radfem just to call other women whores and persecute them. Most women in sw are mentally ill and were groomed and it is the fault of moids. Radfem simply isn't for right wingers as it is left wing ideology

>>118595
Uh well gender theory is exactly about meaning of certain words soo

>>118371
What the fuck that's insane

Okay so 0.4% of the US population, or about 1.4 million people, are trans. The ratio is 2.2 to 1 MtF to FtM, so that leaves about 962,000 MtF troons. Currently there are 11,699 federal prisoners that are in for sex offenses, or 5,671 MtF predators.

Back of the envelope math, that means that one out of 170 MtF transgenders are currently in federal prison for sex offenses, usually possession or distribution of child pornography.

That's absolutely fucking insane. Not "1 out of 170 have been to jail for sex offenses," but "1 out of 170 are in prison RIGHT NOW for sex offenses."

>>118723
Okay, so they both fall under the umbrella of self-harm. Let's take that as a hypothesis. In such a case, what makes the one one form of self harm and the other another form of self-harm? What word describes this? Here's an example, is one "intentional self-harm" and the other "medical self-harm"? Give me better words to describe what you think the difference between the two forms of self harm is.
>>118371
Wow that's pretty brutal. Anyone got a link to the raw data so I can verify this?

>>118793
>They are different things for the reasons I already explained.
Sure, agreed for now, now give me a label.
>Use whatever fucking words you want, I don't care. The words don't exist because the mainstream doesn't recognize SRS as self harm but a legitimate procedure.
Then go and invent the term, you've made the discovery. What describes one pattern of behavior and what describes the other?
>Do you disagree that they are different things caused by different psychological stressors?
I don't know if I do, you're imprecise in your language as far as what the difference is and apparently I'm too stupid to understand. If you chose to give labels to one and the other perhaps we could cover some distance because I could firmly state what one was and what the other is, I'm giving you the chance to decide since this is the idea that you are espousing.

>>118780
Really makes you think.

>>118780
>0.275% of the population
>48.47% of imprisoned sex offenders
Really sparks ignition in cognition

>>118836
It's poorly made, I think it means 11.2 % of the general population is in for that, 48% of all troons are in for that, etc… Not the other way around, that is 48 % of all sex offenders are troons

>>118836
>she doesn't see troons as part of the general population
uhh based department calling

>>118267
>who do you think will troon out in 2022
Hbomberguy
Adum
Technology Connections dude

>>118363
>Quimton Reviews
This won't be pretty

>>118866
I know Adam's retarded but I'll cry if he troons out. Also I think Folding Ideas could be next…

>>118899

Agreed, I would really be shocked if he did. His long hair is related to his horse fetish, not AGP.

>it's another "tranny vtubing with a female avatar" episode
Hate it, why tf are moids like this. Embrace being a feminine male. Having a female visual doesn't erase the "flamboyant gay man" from your voice.

Babiniku is kind of a shit term that doesn't really dive deeply enough into how repulsive it is that men think they can digitally LARP as anime girls and not come off as completely cringe. It feels like whoever came up with "babiniku" was trying to cope hard and make it sound better. V-trannies is probably most accurate, or V-AGPs/virtual autogynephiles.

>>118866
>>118870
Smart money is definitely on hbomberguy. Folding Ideas doesn't give me trans vibes but I do think he fucks his cat.

>>119004
>but I do think he fucks his cat.
why?

>>118970
As far as I can tell "babiniku" doesn't have inherently negative connotations because there aren't any. Japs don't care about this as much as any hear does. This is further reinforced by the fact that the majority of "fans" for "babiniku" are scrotes, so it does't matter regardless. If you think there should be a new term with negative slang, I don't know, contact the Japanese female audiences for vtubers and go ask them how they feel about "babiniku".

>>119007
>Im glad no one I enjoy has ever become a troon.
same, lets hope it stays that way

>>118970
Doing more reading I guess what may be more what you want is the term "nekama", but that is specifically different from a "babiniku" because it is a "nekama(catfish)" attempt. Which I suppose has negative connotation, but doesn't cover the men who have female avatars, voice changers, and are completely honest about being men behind the avatars. Japs just don't seem to care as long as it's cute I guess.

>>119006
I'm mostly kidding but I just find the way he talks to it and how much he posts about it weird.

>>118866
>technology connections
one of the few scrote youtubers I like god I hope you're wrong.

>>118267
Tranny Vaush is an image too disgusting that will haunt me for days

>>118970
I'm not into Vtubers so I have no clue, but do those guys identify as trans or something like that?

>>119056
No, or if they do it's very rare. If the vtuber is trans that would usually be called a "nekama" or "catfish" instead. Babiniku are very clearly men who say they are men and confident in being men that LARP as female avatars.

>>119057
>>119056
Think "incel that plays a girl in MMOs for free gifts".

>>118214
>>119020
He radiates "cool gay uncle" not tranny vibes.
But yeah, I side with >>118383 and bet on Quinton Reviews.
Also, is there any tranny prone rightwing figure? If not Which right wing trooning out would give the most LOLS?

>>119061
NTA, but there are a few rightwing trannies out there already. as far as who might troon out that isnt already, i wouldn't be surprised if richard spencer wanted to but he would never allow himself to do it.

>>119061
>Which right wing trooning out would give the most LOLS?

Ben Shapiro

>>119061
>>119063
Crowder

>>119063
I want to do his make up so bad. I'm normal I am normal

I had my first experience with having to use they/them/their to refer to someone in conversation, and it was so damned annoying (I say “have” because I’m a conflict-averse wuss).

>>119073
The only reasons I would use someone’s “pronouns” is if
1) I felt physically threatened by them (e.g. being alone with a TiM)
2) It was at my workplace and I didn’t want to get fired/get a bad reference (but I’d try to find a new job if possible)
3) There was a chance of them “exposing” me (e.g. posting my face on twitter or something to get TRAs to send me death and rape threats).
So yeah, I feel like I could basically only “misgender” them anonymously. These men have so much power in society despite claiming that they are the most opwessed people ever.

>>119076
>who don't feel like they fit into the stereotypes of either gender
This implies the misogynist idea that women naturally conform to sex stereotypes (e.g. being submissive, being weak, being “hysterical”, wearing makeup, having long hair, etc.) The truth is that women are women no matter what stereotypes they relate to.
>they aren’t as crazy as troons
LOL, just fucking LOL. Are you new to the internet?

>>119076
they are just as bad in how they act imho

>>119076
How can someone be “androgynous feeling”? It’s about what you are, not about what you feel. 99% of people are clearly their sex and using they/them is unnatural and retarded.

>>119080
>How can someone be “androgynous feeling”?
this. same for saying you feel like the opposite sex, how would anyone even know what that means? you just feel how you feel, there is no inherent feeling in your sex because you have nothing to compare it to. like jazz saying he "feels" like a girl, it's meaningless nonsense.

>>119061
Millennial woes. He was already a gay prostitute and also raped a few dumb right wing pick-mes and gave them STDs. He has a YouTube channel but I'm not sure if he updates it anymore.

>>119083
>He was already a gay prostitute and also raped a few dumb right wing pick-mes and gave them STDs.
not true

>>119073
For the longest time I thought "they/them" was supposed to be plural, like a split personality sort of thing.

We know

>>119084
Yes it is literally true. Go read his kiwifarms thread.

We see you

We need more based bio transwomen infiltrating these peoples' Discords

>>119070
you are literally so right

>>119076
theyre entitled and annoying brats who think that the whole world revolves around them (unless they have dysphoria ig)

Absolutely foul

dumb

All tranny roads lead to accelerationism

>>119104
am i not supposed to be able to tell that you searched "fanged noumena" then typed "sissification" in the search bar without hitting enter?

lmao

>>119114
i got this from their Discord, I didn't make it

>>118454
Woah there anon, no need to be abrasive just because I used some capslock.
>>118471
It's not an injury, it's a surgical procedure (not a good one, I'm not denying that).
>>118585
>Those are contradictory. It's like saying cutting wouldn't be self harm if we had the technology to heal instantly. It's still harm, the effects are just mitigated.
If we had the technology to heal instantly no one would self harm because "harm" would cease to exist.
If let's say a woman decides to remove her breasts because she knows it's harmful, and she's doing it because it's harmful, yes it is self harm. If you ever been in trans circles you'd see how they constantly talk about how those surgeries are part of them loving their body. No self harmer says they cut themselves because they love their body. And no, liking your own self harm scars isn't the same.
>Not true at all. Not only can self harm be subconscious (chopping off your hair after a break up because you want "a fresh look") but we classify the actions of retarded who have no higher brain function who hurt themselves as self harm.
Self harm, as a coping mechanism, is a different thing. Unintentionally hurting yourself as an emotional impulse (for example, eating or drinking alcohol) is not self harm, even if you're doing it to get away from negative emotions. Now drinking alcohol because you know it's a bad thing for your body and you want to cause harm to your body by such method or anything like cutting, burning, beating, starving yourself or eating until you feel sick, is self harm.

>>119121
Ew

>>119076
they're retarded women who think they´re special or not like other women because too much massive social media juice showing hypersexualized or hyperfemenine women as an ideal, or worse, showing how boring and irrelevant is being a straight hyperfemenine woman is, led them to think they need to be special and not like other girls, so they invented a new retarded labels that basically means nothing.
i don't hate them, they're single-handledly destroying this fad by getting other troons mad and showing normies and the rest of the world how meaningless their ideology is

You shouldn't have to hide who you are or get surgery to be gender nonconforming
You shouldn't have to hide who you are or get surgery to be gender nonconforming
You shouldn't have to hide who you are or get surgery to be gender nonconforming
You shouldn't have to hide who you are or get surgery to be gender nonconforming
You shouldn't have to hide who you are or get surgery to be gender nonconforming
You shouldn't have to hide who you are or get surgery to be gender nonconforming
You shouldn't have to hide who you are or get surgery to be gender nonconforming
You shouldn't have to hide who you are or get surgery to be gender nonconforming

>>119076
Because when they say things like "I don't feel like a woman, I feel like a human being" they're saying that a woman isn't a human being, but a set of stereotypes. It's unforgivable.

>>119265
it's funny to me how ACLU used to be so pro-free speech that they defended the right for neo nazis to march, but they won't even extend the courtesy to women who reasonably think that TIMs are men or that puberty blockers are dangerous.

"transkids" aren't real, trans is something you opt-into and a lot of "transkids" either have munchausen-by-proxy parents, gay, or are uncomfortable in their body as a result of sexual abuse. kids who are uncomfortable with their bodies don't deserve to be put on the same drugs that are used to castrate pedophiles in prison

>>119076
i don't hate them (i don't inherently hate any transperson for existing even if i disagree with a lot of them, unless they're "fundies" in their belief) but a lot of them internalize sexist gender roles and think having a personality makes them not the sex they are. maybe the they/thems you know don't take hormones and are androgynous, but a decent amount do take hormones, and most just present as regular girls but act like the troons you don't like, and a lot try to push neutral language onto people who are ESL or don't know how to "ungender" everything. i don't have a problem with "they" pronouns but i do have issues with people requiring people call them a "xe xer xers" and etc

>>119265
>TRANS KIDS ARE NOT A THREAT
Yeah, they're victims. Trans adults, on the other hand…

>>119277
>victims
*victhems

>>119209
>i don't hate them, they're single-handledly destroying this fad by getting other troons mad
same here lmao. they’re appropriating their appropriation, and it is, like they say, ”heckin’ cute and valid” hahahaha

>>119281
>claiming that womanhood is a set of sexist stereotypes is… le heckin cute and valid!!
Go back to twitter please

has anyone else noticed the correlation between troons and an infantile obsession with stuffed animals? i truly believe that one component to mtfs is arrested development and not wanting to become an adult man with responsibilities. in a healthy upbringing children get love and care from their parents emotionally and physically. when some people are afraid, they crave this comfort, they want to curl up and be held like a child. troons see women in a similar way as they see children; they see women being held and comforted or looked after. this makes them feel that certain love they crave, the love of a mother or father making them feel safe, but they confuse/conflate this feeling with "femininity". this is why it didnt surprise me when i found out that some troons wear diapers and sleep in cribs. just a bit of a ramble, thanks for reading.

>>119319
>What the fuck happened to the west?
unironically our men got feminized

>>119319
Porn, video games and internet ruined a whole generation of men

>>119332
>>119333
This.

>>118780
>>118834
You're literally innumerate. The image is saying the percentages of each group who are in prison for sexual crimes. As in, 48.47% of the MtF prison population are in for sex crimes. It is not saying that 48.47 of imprisoned sex offenders are MtF.

Didn't you wonder why the percentages only add up to like 67%?

Still mental that trannies appear to be 5 times as likely to be sex pests than the general population.

>>119347
>You're literally innumerate.
No, I'm simply lazy when responding to 118780, for I calculated those percentages based off what the anon said without looking at the image.

The image itself is terribly designed and deserves to be misunderstood.

>>119347
i wish i could find the link but i read a study once that said autogynephilia is sometimes comorbid with other paraphilias like pedophilia (duh) and even zoophilia. that's probably why a lot of male-to-trans go to prison for sex crimes, because their trans identity came from paraphilia

>>119076
>who don't feel like they fit into the stereotypes of either gender

This is what I don't understand. I neither fit into the stereotypes of femininity nor masculinity, but I still go by she/her because I don't care, and it seems like such an effort to have to actually change your own language and actively police others'. Ironically, it seems like the people who claim to care the least about gender constructs (by rejecting to go by them) care the most about how their gender (or lack thereof) is identified by the public. No one who has actual problems cares about this nonsense. Additionally, my old French teacher has instilled a dislike of they/them for grammatical reasons, she used to drill that you should use his/her in place of they if it's just one person, because 'they' implies many. She would use it as an opportunity to teach us French, because the plural 'they' in French is 'ils' or 'elles' depending on whether there is a male in the group (or not).

I wonder how the french deal with this shit, or if they even have to. Do they just use 'qui'? Or do they copy the Spanish and use an x in place of gendered vowels, xl/xls? French anons if you know please lmk because I'm interested now

>>119427
Hi Jesus

>>119427
do normal spanish people actually add -x to words? i know a lot of them consider things like "latinx" to be pointless woke nonsense

>>119434
the x was used to include women into discourses, because of some gendered sentences like "los trabajadores" (the workers). instead of writing "las (femenine article)y los trabajadores", wokies used "lxs trabajadorxs". but since the imperialist and globalist troonism kicked in, the use of these forms just dropped and ceased to exist. now the "x" is replaced with an "e"

Another troon going with the “they hate me because they want to fuck me” argument. Oh, the delusion.

>>119448
lol, what is this trying to say? that the TIM is a race-fetishist and won't date other white guys? isn't that problematic?

On nobnibaries

>>119433
Hello my child, peace be with you.

>>119434
I should've said Mexicans, I've only seen them specifically doing this, and there's a very high chance they're from California.

>>119443
I think les trabajadores is fine given this sort of context. I have no idea how you'd even pronounce lxs, I'd guess lexus.

>>119443
And I'm glad because the x sounds and looks fucking retarded. I'm not against adding a neutral gender "e" just to include both masculine and feminine or indicate unknown gender (grammatical).

>>119332
>feminized
I'm tired of universally bad traits being attributed to "femininity" and thusly attributed to women and women's nature.

>>119461
It's literally been a male cope for millennia.

>>119456
>I catch some misogynistic insults aimed at men
Excuse me?

>>119427
I feel the same way I dont care about the gender stereotypes and I thought we got over that. And the people they scapegoat to hide criticism (people of different races, neurodivergency) have bigger problems then whoever misgendered them. but a lot of they/thems around me just seem like attention seekers with issues they need to work out(and narcissism). I'm not sure what else is uniquely going on to make them decide to behave this way and get angry when people say she instead of they in they/she.

>>119466
I think he means insults that are aimed at men but are misogynistic because it's comparing them to a woman? Like "sissy boy" and whatnot? Fuck if I know

>>119456
This post illustrates to me that most transpeople would have bigger dating pools if they weren't wrapped up in being "seen" a certain way or having their identity constantly validated, over someone who actually finds them attractive. Dating an open-minded gay man who will treat him respectfully but not see him as a woman (because he isn't) is probably the best option for him

>>119470
they dont see gay guys as 'real men' ironically lol

>>119461
i just see it as meaning not as aggressive when used in that way, it's not necessarily negative

>>119474
That's because in a normal society no distinction would be made between gender dysphoria and homosexuality

>>119461
>tired of universally bad traits being attributed to "femininity"
The moids that try their interpretation of "feminity" usually do so because they feel like they failed to be masculine. Modern media has done an awful job at outlining strong masculinity, just bastardizing the concept into "strength is violence".

>the idea of "feminity" gets fed to them by porn
>we're stuck with troon on the left of us
>mooooids on the right~
>and I'm stuck here in the middle with (You)

>>119501
No I get it. But I hate masculinity too. Femininity leads to too many passive-aggressive behaviors. I think both by themselves are weaknesses. An entitlement to aggression… being more likely to use passive-aggression as a crutch because you don't know how use aggression properly. The world is going to demand aggression from you at some point, its better to know how to use it properly, then have a flimsy approach to defending yourself and getting what you need. I don't think the stereotypes benefit anyone. Blending masculinity and femininity benefits you tremendously when you know how, far too many people have no idea. Plus having to go with the label/ cliché of being sensitive means you're less likely to have a well-rounded sort of humor. You're less able to put space between yourself and things. Femininity and masculinity are both abused to death in real life. Men need to have emotional awareness and intelligence to.

And whether or not masculinity and femininity are misrepresented isn't the point. People drift into stereotypes that are widely accepted whether for better or worse. Its more fun to drift into toxic masculinity because of the power imbalance, and what you can get away with. Good god you see it all the time, and then women wonder why. Why does this happen to them. Like they think there's actually the same recourse at all for them. Femininity by itself just opens you up to way too much manipulation too. Its a psychological burden from childhood, trying to maintain femininity. You waste years playing that game, and its one-sided and vile.

>>119461
Agreed nona, fuck that "muh feminized males bad" poster. As if femininity is something bad, if men actually got feminized as in became gentler, humbler, more beautiful and thoughtful the world would look like picrelated. They just got so lazy they want all benefits males of the past had without having any of their responsibilities (there wasn't a lot compared to women, but they still had some duties).

>>119476
Fuck off

>>119474
That's true, it's why gay men who become trans to turn into "sttaight women" often go after straight men. They aren't the majority but I've known a few gay men who would be ok with dating a transwoman who kept his dick (because they like soft feminine guys), but gay TIMs are self hating and would rather harass straight men and pretend to be a woman than accept being gay and date a bisexual

>>119476
you really don't get it. lurk moar

>>119566
jesus christ how does this not peak anyone who reads it?

>>119568
the fact this person uses "they" instead of "she" makes me think they're halfway there

>>119566
peak spicy straight shit

>>119566
Sorry for samefagging but I wanted to ad that the internalised misogyny is off the charts. He comes out as a woman and she immediately "takes a more dominant role" in the bedroom and starts waxing his arms? Fucking yikes

>>119571
comments are full of nb tifs complaining about the same thing. they're like ''it's bc nobody takes enbyness seriously!'' no girl, it's because tims are entitled and expect you to cater them kek males gonna male. i hope they all peak

>>119571
looked up the user and she says in a different post that her s/o uses they/them, so probably not.

>>119434
Not a spanish speaker but portuguese speaker (gender works basically the same). In my country literally only half a dozen people do that x crap, I've seen it once in one internet advertisement, but never again. Most people literally don't know about that.
Here the only thing people actually do is use @, so for example instead of amigo or amiga writting amig@. It's not a non binary thing tho, it's more a gender inclusion thing that's supposed to let you be the one read it as amigo/amiga depending of what applies to you.

I'm kinda curious how other languages have to deal with non binaries. What pronouns do german they/thems go by? Do people in Sweden actually use those pronouns the government tried to create?

Kinda funny when they try to make tranny pregancy a thing, when they haven’t bothered to properly research/fund research for pregancy itself to make it safer.

>>119566
break the fuck up. when my ex came out as trans I cried, I was still drinking the TRA juice but even then I knew something was wrong if I was crying. I inevitably broke things off because they got more and more fucking irritating to deal with. I really truly hope she breaks up with him. fuck that shit

>>119934
there is a tranny on jeopardy? glad i dont watch tv anymore

>>119937
lol, i can't stand this trend of trying to make being bullied a unique situation for lgbts. i got mercilessly bullied as a kid for having red curly hair and freckles, but no one is running to give me a hug for it lol.

really good article about the tranny swimmer destroying women's records at UPenn, so happy to see shit like this coming from media other than Fox
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/01/10/lia-thomas-penn-transgender-swimmer/

>Hogshead-Makar, Olympian, said “The lazy way out is saying, ‘Put them in the women’s category.’

>“To blow up the women’s category is just not the answer. This makes the women’s category meaningless.”

>>120266
The answer they have in mind is obviously to remove the women’s category entirely. Sorry ladies, back to the kitchen with us I guess. Trannies made us obsolete in the workforce

>>120266
Look at the width of his fucking shoulders. But sure, he’s JUST like a woman because he takes hormones! Fuck the world.

>>120273
autogynephiles tend to be hypermasculine and do very male-normative jobs like military or tech before transitioning. check out the works of ray blanchard

>>120306
NTA, that source puts the statistic at 41%, so while it does agree, that doesn't seem to be what the original image is citing.

troons raiding the thread

>>120306
The best thing to do with images like that is to include a link and an archive.is of what is being reported on. Makes it look like shit otherwise. I'm willing to add a hyperlink and archive.is link if anyone can find the actual original source.

>>120316
But troons are overrepresented on certain places on the internet.

>>120297
There is absolutely nothing about this man that looks female.
Take away his dresses, makeup, and wigs, and there's just nothing.

>>120321
>>120322
How many hours have you spent pouring over your /pol/ infographs, retard? only moids are this confrontational.

Fucked up my archive links.

Other one.

>>120324
>shitting on TERFs making better infographics for themselves
Most moid post in this thread.

>>120325
>>120326
Love these. Thanks anon!

>>118214
>>120325
General pupulation 11.2%
I bet these numbers are diluted by combining moids and women. Are there one with the percentage of males?

>>120325
>>120326
I saw an interview recently from a woman who was in prison and they had trannies coming in and it sounded like a total nightmare. Some of them didn't even bother trying to "pass", and iirc she said that they heard two of the guys say "Stick to the plan" when they arrived. California needs to fall into the ocean already. Also they get preferential treatment and some prison installed condom dispensers. It's so dark, I really can't believe this is actually happening.

>>120338
>some prison installed condom dispensers
one could argue it's a good harm reduction tactic but moids in general are pretty reluctant to put them on (as there's no benefit for the moid to use it); especially fucking pornsick tranny sex offenders.

>>119307
Absolutely. Too many of them are into ABDL, are “littles”, or have “child alters” for it to be a coincidence. I have noticed that as nonbinary stuff has become more popular, a lot of these men who identified as women now are also identifying as nonbinary or agender she/they. It’s not that they want to be women, just that they want to be anything but a man. It’s a rejection of being a man more than anything else. They would rather be she, they, it, xe before he.

>>120337
I’m interested in this as well. I wonder how close the men and TIM stats are, and how close the women and TIF stats are.

>>120344
it would be harm reduction if they werent there in the first place

>>120325
>>120326
the archive link doesn't work for me? Also, if that is the letter "j" in the link, I think the font should be changed so it doesn't look like an "i."

>>120345
precisely. same goes for ftms, i dont think they want to be men, they are just traumatized at the idea of being female.

>>119456
Such a longwinded way of saying "where's my femdommy mommy gf? :'(" god. The question wouldn't need asking if he was comfortable with being treated as a gay male bottom. Sounds like he'd rather be seen as a man after all, than learn to top/switch lmao. Pathetic.

>>119566
Whenever these people describe their relationships it always reads like the most insane, forced, loveless thing I can imagine. I don't know how you can take anything away from this besides diagnosing both of them with one or more mental illnesses.

>>120358
Exactly. For whatever reason, these people have a complete aversion and maybe even a hatred for the sex that they are, not truly an affinity for the sex they are not. To me, it seems like what they hate most is themselves, and they want to destroy who they are and become something entirely different.

>>119307
wow this is a very interesting point, i never really thought about it that way!
how much does trauma play in being a gendershit? can a TiM have a mix of trauma and AGP?

>>120391
absolutely

>>119307
I've heard it argued that transgender people may have missed out on "pretend" play as children. It manifests as an adult trying to force others to play along in their "make believe" description of themselves. Their childhood doesn't even need to be traumatic, just never got to indulge in "make believe" play.

I'd argue this applies to both TiFs and TiMs though, it's just easy to spot in TiMs because society has less emphasis put on male childhood and TiFs just go ignored mostly.

>>118214
what's wrong with this? is that actually a girl?

>>120440
Meds

>>120441
???

>>120452
nta, I think it's a mother imposing transgenderism on her daughter.

>>120440
>>120454
It’s a biological boy wearing a dress. It’s fine as long as the adults around him don’t start saying he’s a girl because he likes dresses. I don’t like it as the OP image.

>>119076
> don't feel like they fit into the stereotypes of either gender and would like people to recognize that, a highly relatable feel. They really aren't troons
You do realize that whole shtick is what led to the existence of troons in the first place? It's a false narrative, not founded in reality in the slightest, only based on the assumption that if you do not conform to a stereotype then you aren't a "woman", which is frankly such a demented idea that I do not know how many people are buying into this.

>>120455
It is? wow. I guess kids can be pretty androgynous looking. Terrible thread pic tho lol.

>>120475
smh

Sweden has stopped prescribing puberty blockers to ppl under 18… feeling hopeful today

https://segm.org/Sweden_ends_use_of_Dutch_protocol

>>120477
Great news

>>120477
Remember the swedes and nords started the whole trans acception thing, now they are seeing the light. Soon the rest of the world will copy this too. Based.

>>120477
Basedddd

>>120475
Not very based of my dumbass country

Is it possible to un-peak trans? I was 100% supportive of trans identity for a long time, but over time, I realized it's nothing but a giant reinforcement of gender stereotypes. And homophobia, too, but as a straight woman, I'm not informed enough to speak on that. Obviously, what truly irks me is what males do. For females, I'm frustrated and disappointed at their internalized misogyny. But the idea of a man claiming to feel like a woman, and the misogynistic things that inform this "feeling," is what I really hate.

Another stance of mine is that, unless you're an extremely stereotypically hypermasculine man or hyperfeminine woman, you've probably struggled with some aspect of gender roles. So when I hear them frame their struggles as things specific to trans or nonbinary people, I think, "Well, don't we all?"

I don't necessarily want to walk back on my views, if that's even possible. But I feel like it would be easier to, for instance, see a trans woman and not think of how stunted, regressive, and juvenile they are, and not immediately think of how their identity is based around sexism and possibly perversion. For my own happiness, it'd be nice to see them the way normies do – with no-questions-asked support. Is it possible to dial it back a little once you've reached such adamant conclusions?

>>120634
Normies think like you too, they just mask it under politeness because that's what most others say and you just accept it and conform because you don't want to stand out. You can't unlearn what you come to understand

(20f) i invited this trans girl over to watch movies nd cuddle or whatever idk; and i couldn’t ignore the intrusive thoughts i was having,,insisting “he will never be a real girl” and i just felt a general disgust. this is odd because i don’t feel this way about trans dudes. trans girls are just fucking DUDES!!LIKE THE MODERN DAY MAN CANT EVEN COMPREHEND GENDER CORRECTLY OR IN AN UNBIASED DISADVANTAGED WAY BC THEYRE A FUCKING MAN!!!! stupid fucking moids wanting to be women. i’m using “she” to avoid confusion but also because i feel guilty not. i always respect ppls pronouns irl but i hate the type of bitch who goes by they/them because they think it’s cool… anyway

>>120637
THE FORMAT?? it’s fucked on my phone at least e_e

(20f) i invited this trans girl over to watch movies nd cuddle or whatever idk; and i couldn’t ignore the intrusive thoughts i was having,,insisting “he will never be a real girl” and i just felt a general disgust. this is odd because i don’t feel this way about trans dudes. trans girls are just fucking DUDES!!LIKE THE MODERN DAY MAN CANT EVEN COMPREHEND GENDER CORRECTLY OR IN AN UNBIASED DISADVANTAGED WAY BC THEYRE A FUCKING MAN!!!! stupid fucking moids wanting to be women. i’m using “she” to avoid confusion but also because i feel guilty not. i always respect ppls pronouns irl but i hate the type of bitch who goes by they/them because they think it’s cool… anyway

>>120637
>>120638
Why did you invite him over to begin with? You don't have to hang out with dudes you don't like just to be nice, esp if they're jealous of women

>>120634
honestly a lot of people feel this way. i have a TIM cousin and my liberal mom still says "he" and corrects herself, a lot of people only give lip service to trans.
maybe i'm just a hippie but i never fully dialed it back, but i never saw a "transwoman" as women or anything, even the ones i thought were cool people, at most i just saw them as a transperson. so that's what they are to me, they're transpeople

gross

good for her

How many of you are trannies that hate how porn sick male socialised other trannies are and have been sexually harassed or assaulted by them? Be honest

What do you think of Gender Accelerationism?
https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/

>>120696
Trannies aren’t allowed here. We’re all women.

>>120637
>>120638
You obviously have a lot of growing to do. You type like an underage Twitter user. Also, cuddling with a tranny sounds gagworthy. Lurk more and educate yourself about gender critical beliefs.

>>120696
lmao “other” trannies are pornsick right ok. I’m sure you’re one of the good ones!

>>120698
can someone translate this article from schizo to english?

iluminati is feminizing men because women make better computers….?

>>120297
yakuza 3

>>120688
super cool and healthy for your gender to randomly change during a time of crisis

>>120688
>>120719

I'm gonna stop spamming this same guy but their whole twitter is goldmine, yes no terfs want to dismantle the patriarchy or the male/female power imbalence, it's all about bullying the poor troons /s

>>120696
I'm sure there might be some tifs if that's what you mean, but trannies are pretty bad at larping as women. Best they can do is in /media/ or /img/

>>120709
To be fair asexual trannies exist

>>120638
It takes years for the male socialisation to fade if they go on hrt and aren't coomers, too many are too lazy to train their voice so they don't sound like total moids too.

>>120724
not really, unless they're TIMs who lost libido and penis functioning from estrogen, or pre-testosterone TIFs who were abused. literally every "asexual" tranny i've known just liked looking at porn or masturbating but didn't want to date, aka libidinal celibates

>>120686
Good god what a clusterfuck. It’s like watching Ancient Aliens.
In addition to everything else, Noelle and Susie having sex sounds far-fetched to me. It was an innocent romantic moment they had together. (They’re underage too, which ups the gross factor by x1000000) Why do scrotes have to see the coom in everything?

>>120686
/media/ is so obviously infested with TRA. Saw that ”autistic anime girl” thread and noped the shit out of there.

>>120759
Eh why
You don’t think women can’t be sympathetic to autistic characters and like anime?..
I mean, I guess it is a half of the board

https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdr4M7R8/ lol i feel like i should just uninstall tiktok instead of letting it get me enraged since its peak tumblr on steroids. but this one really really pisses me off to no end. I just hate hate hate that so many girls are claimimg to be gay men. especially after claiming to be a lesbian first. it just makes me feel postal. idk maybe its the lesbain femcel in me feeling bitter that every girl ive felt something for ended up being a "gay trans guy" aka just another straight girl but withba twist. she gets to have a wailing victim complex and get her little gotcha momments when she dresses up with her tits out amd clearly enjoys being a woman but still Insists that she Is a true gay boy uwu because labels dont mean anything at all and u can be completely female in everyway. presentation demeanor. but u can just claim to be a twans boy so u can escape being the dreaded straight woman because thats no longer trendy. idk im bitter as hell and i acknowledge im sounding slut shamey but im litteraly just pissed off at this trend. wish girls felt comfortable being girls

>>120773
how do you fuck up this bad as a parent. going out of your way to make your kid confused at every step.

>>120773
That a child saying something on a whim at an age when they say tons of incomprehensible things can lead to such a terrible upbringing pains me. I feel really bad for the years of therapy this girl is going to have go through and the fact that whenever she talks about her experiences with her deranged mother she'll be silenced for challenging trans dogma

>>120773
the ''!!''s are so annoying i hate to think that there are 40 year olds who type like this and call themselves nonbinary

>>120764
Wow you want to be treated with respect like men treat other men and feel actual appreciation for your inner being and not your appearance? You must be a gay trans guy!

I weep for it too. Being a lesbian these days seems like pure suffering, I'm convincing myself I'm straighter than I am, not that men are any better

I can't see "Gender Euphoria" as anything other than paraphilic arousal anymore

>>120788
Note that all of these are about proximity to women.

Sander was trolled by 4chan, it's mildly funny.
and I also like Hellraiser Just Like You.

>>120788
I’d yell at my sister for wearing my fucking UNDERWEAR, and if my brother did, I might not ever talk to him again. God, that’s disgusting.

>>120790
Yeah, it seems that all moids have parasite instincts. No amount of magic pills and makeup can suppress that.

>>120788
this is so vile. Wearing her underwear jesus christ. i hope she gets away from him. the male entitlement is puke worthy

>>120722
>1.6k likes
I hate humanity.

>>120788
>shopping
>gossiping
>girlsnight
He has watched too much hollywood movies. Or porn, given the bras&undies he stole. Seriously, why is it so rarely about blouses or skirts? Why do they need to wear the unseen fabric, that held intimate organs, against their bare skin?

>>120762
Because anime isn’t meant to represent real life. The same reason why yuri is so idealized and unrealistic.

>>120792
hey jazzsister

>>119938
Who bullies someone for having red curly hair and freckles? I am so jealous of people like you, I've wanted those traits as long as I can remember, instead I'm a brown hair hazel eyed loser
bullies were prolly just jealous

Was this ever posted here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKelRmfg2s8

>>120841
is this Adam Driver

>>120841
Lol his voice is so deep and male. How hopeless.

>>120773
Jesus Christ I hope this woman loses custody of her child. The dad was smart to get the fuck out of there but leaving the kid with her was a mistake for sure.

>>120773
It blows my mind that a supposed non binary person is angry about "girl toys" lmao.

>>120788
someone on radblr said this was fake and written by a gc kek just to see if people bought it

>>120898
Did they?

>>120898
>>120899
found it.
https://officialwoman.tumblr.com/post/673879934112088064/plsss-ive-made-a-fake-story-about-a-trans-women

>>120788
>>120898

kek I wonder how many trannies in the comments went 'same' at this lunacy

>>120898
>>120900
They shouldn’t be doing this. It just makes us look bad spreading around fake stories.

>>120899
Have you read the thread?
>>120790
>>120812
>>120810
>>120799

>>120900
>femenaces said: AGPs make enough of these posts on their own, creating fake ones is kind of weird and only adds to TRAs claims that all negative things about trans women are fake and made up by trolls. This sort of stuff actively makes all of our other valid claims fall suspect when you do shit like this.
This poster speaks the truth.

wow, just stumbled upon r/transtryouts and the amount of mental illness here is staggering

>>120773
This is fake. That is the only way I can stay sane.

>>120913
You're in luck, it is in fact fake.
>>120900

>>120911
imagine being fired for refusing to be this cringe lol

>>120918
nta but the post seemed pretty fake to me, not that stuff like that doesnt happen, just the way it was written was too on the nose

>>120918
I'd take someone making a fake caricature of a political opponent over claiming a legitimate post as being fabricated any day of the week. You do you, though it's quite funny you're more incredulous of the account claiming ownership over the original.

>>120922
>It does seem like caricature, but troons act like caricatures of themselves every single day, so it is not unlikely at all that it was real.
I do not have the intellectual capability of refuting such a statement, so I suppose you must be correct.

>>120924
What is in that jar?

>>120940
you, lol.

>>119938
>I got mercilessly bullied as a kid for having red curly hair and freckles

I relate all too well. We make up 1-2% of the population, and yet no one considers us a minority, or acts like we could be discriminated against, since we're white. I still get called 'ranga' by teenagers at 24 (Australian slang, derived from orangutan).

I'm pretty sure no one has ever said those last two kek

>>121091
Oh, I know the answer to this one.
The reason why it's seemingly only coming from the physically unattractive people is because you already and immediately came on to the hot ones, you delusional coombrained faggot living a fetish.

>>121092
How could he possibly take care of a baby, if he can’t keep his own crotch from festering in shit?

>>121146
That last one is about the current Jeopardy champion…

>>121146
I've never heard of the beauty pageant claim, where does that come from?

>>121146
Both the Jeopardy tranny and the Olympics tranny are hideous lol, this is false equivalence at its finest. A beauty pageant drag queen is never gonna be the booknerd scrote or the roided up hon.

Not to mention, this is just toxic masculinity in a tranny shell. "We upbring you women by pretending we are you", defeating the purpose of separating the biological sexes in the first place.

>>120773
>and in the changing room the boys laugh and ask what's wrong
Is this a thing? Do men really get naked in the same space together? Why aren't the incels that rage about homophobia complaining about this and advocating for their own privacy rights? This seems pretty gay, just letting other men freely look at your genitals without a regard for your privacy.
Then again, I'll never understand moid dick-measuring contest mentality. Women don't compete in breast sizes or labia configurations, and I've only ever known pornrotten perverts to say they have specific preferences when it comes to those things.

Also lol, sounds like a fujo pedo mom that got mad that the "son" she was grooming doesn't want to be a boy. I feel for the baby because the kid is just trying to appease both "zom" and dad.

>>121146
He will never be an anime girl
He will always be a man

>>121180
>Women don't compete in breast sizes
The shitflinging between large-breasted and small-breasted miners on this very board begs to differ.

>>121171
the breastfeeding thing is so insane to me, how can you be so selfish as to hurt your baby for a fetish? someone posted this video on another site, the beginning shows a man trying to breastfeed after a woman gives birth.

>>121180
i think the consensus is that that story is fake anyway, but i have never heard of 7 year old kids changing for PE, at least not where i went to school.

>>121197
I would agree it doesn't happen as often as men get involved, but reading actual miners on this board posting about getting bullied for their "udders" and small-breasted miners complaining about how self-conscious they felt has me considering you ignorant and sheltered at best and a malicious moid at worst.

>>121201
Trannies stole it from us, yes. Go mansplain someone else.

>>121207
Your dismissal of the damage beauty standards inflicts by pitting women against each other is pretty indicative of being a moid. To act as if women don't get in breast measuring contests or weight contests with each other is fucking absurd and sounds like it comes out of an incel.

>>121208
nta, but all you are doing is helping to rob of us more agency by suggesting that everything we do is because men made it that way. i'm not some weak-minded bimbo because i care about how i look, and the idea that some women wouldn't act shitty despite external circumstances is laughable at best.

>>121207
>Sorry I don't have deformed tits and therefore was not bullied for it IRL
Fuck off from here.

>>121211
nta, but why are you being so rude?

>>121172
his fantasies. maybe he saw somthing about a tranny getting kicked out of a pagent and filled in the reason on his own.

>>121183
I haven't seen that, but also not even /nsfw/ has a "tit rate" thread like other imageboard "dick rate" threads. There's no reason to rate each other's tits. Would just invite creeps and pervs, and men who compare dicks are weird and kinda gay.

>>121198
>but reading actual miners on this board posting about getting bullied for their "udders" and small-breasted miners complaining about how self-conscious they felt
That's not the same thing as "shitflingling".

>>121183
Why did whoever made this picture (if it was intended to be radfem and not tranny) leave the black sun symbol in the background?
And if it's originally a tranny meme why the fuck would anyone unironically post that here as a "radfem" thing?

>>121198
Okay yeah no, that's very different than trying to take pictures of your own tits with measuring tape and trying to flex on others and invite them to do the same, which is what moids do with their penises. It's a dumb practice.
Venting about your difficulties in life related to your bust is different and completely respectable.

>>121187
cool as fuck rap tbh

>>118340
>>118573
/jazz/ poster just dropped a collection of this shit. its still not even all of them though, i know i've heard others.
https://voca.ro/1Tb7At0695rM
https://voca.ro/16EMdfbagF0w
https://voca.ro/1ndBbac3eX0U
https://voca.ro/1hTzn3HhdEVX
https://voca.ro/1gvjzUYEGkUR (my favorite, though i don't see anything "kafka-esque" about I Am Jazz)
https://voca.ro/17PsOERsKNk9
https://vocaroo.com/3K7UMO2f6uW
clearly written for /jazz/ posters but still enjoyable to all. the popping noises are a reference to jazz saying his "vagina" popped after the first surgery, btw.

>>121234
not sure what you mean

how do i peak a man? he
>is bi (well ''pan'') and leftist
>thinks 'genital preference' is bs and people shouldn't be pressured to sleep with trans people
>is gender abolitionist, at least claims to be. once he said rather than change gender we should seek to abolish it. i said some people may find it transphobic (to see how he reacts) but he just laughed and moved on
>overall thinks some trans women might pressure lesbians but thinks it isn't an excuse to invalidate all of them from feminism
i'll talk with him later more but rn i'm pretending to be a normie feminist women who doesnt know anything about terfs

>>120841
mogged the shit out of him

>>121245
i mean i agree with you but i still wanna peak him kek

>>121244
he's a big guy

>>121243
Reject him. Tell him you find his views weak and undesirable. Hurt his ego.

>>121243
it seems so obvious to me i'm not sure how i'd explain it to someone. i guess i'd point out that bathrooms and sports and most of all women's shelters are not divided because of how we feel on the inside but because of the differenced between our bodies. i'd steer clear of saying that the idea that a woman is just someone who likes dresses and a man is anyone who likes to feel tough is incredibly sexist. its true but it would just put him on the defensive. you could show him some of the horror stories from gender re-assignment surgery if you wanted to shock him.

>>120773
"girl toys" way to prove that this is just to re-enforce harmful gender stereotypes and not allow your daughter to be "girly" which you perceive as inferior.

>>118215
Oh my fucking god, i should not have seen this.

>>121243
if he's open-minded enough to be receptive about women's rights issues, i would bring up how in other countries women are still treated as second-class and forced into huts, can't have abortions, marital rape is legal, etc. why should be care about a small percentage of men who want to be women when these things are going on? if he's a gender abolitionist he might find it interesting that these still happen in so-called "woke" cultures with "three genders" - even though the people who live as this "third gendered" are usually castrated gay men, and even they are treated better than actual women, so it's almost like these extra "genders" are pointless when women (the ones with vaginas) are still at the bottom.

i would also think it could be interesting to ask why he identifies as pansexual. i know most people who identify as "pansexual" are bisexuals who want to fuck trannies but i knew a lot of bi people who were ashamed of it and called themselves "pan" because it "sounds cooler" or "more open-minded". which ones of these sounds more likely to be him?

>>121251
Bad nona. spritzes with water

>>121243
how is gender abolition different from gender critical? i've seen some ''progressive'' kweers claim to be the first but arent they basically the same thing kek

>>121295
simply different connotations, as the two labels tend to be used by different people who believe very different things

>>121091
Hm, it's almost as if people instinctually recognize creepy sex pest behavior.

>>121295
I've heard troons call themselves "gender anarchists" as a way to mean "my ideas about how sex and gender work don't have to make any sense and I don't have to explain myself, fuck off chuds."

>>118573
This one's my personal favorite

>>121243
Set him up with a MTF post op tranny. Just make sure none of your social media connects to your job, and he doesn't know where you work if you do decide to peak him.

is it me or do these fucks always try to compete with you?
matched with a guy identifying as nonbinary (didn't realize until part way into the conversation when I re-read his profile) and I noticed when we started talking about music, there was a subtle feeling in the convo as if he was trying to one-up me. when he commented on a band I liked, tried to steer the convo in a direction about it being "problematic" and only let it go after I very firmly made it clear that I don't really care, then proceeded to bring up some bands he liked then did one of the ~oh sorry to hit you with all these obscure artists haha~ deals. I didn't feel any sort of attempt to actually connect and share an interest, just him trying to make himself feel superior.

this type of interaction I mostly have with men…sometimes with women but almost every interaction I have with a TIM goes like this, like they're immediately trying to find a way to deem me inferior with some subtle neg.

>>121461
>and only let it go after I very firmly made it clear that I don't really care
based

>>121295
gender critical means being critical of gender roles as a construct and how it relates to trans identity, gender abolition is basically the idea of doing away with gender entirely. they go hand-in-hand but not all criticals are abolitionists

>>121491
Kek I was going to say this
>>121461
>~oh sorry to hit you with all these obscure artists haha~
Yep, that's definitely normal moid behavior, it usually happens when you tell him that you're into one of his hobbies

>>120909
How do we even know that anon is telling the truth though? It's very common for AGPs and troons to claim certain things never happened, it would not surprise me that one was aware of radfem blogs and so was sending anons declaring certain posts were fake to make their community look better.

>>121530
Megatron

>>121146
>game shows because we're too smart
Top kek. Telling you you're not allowed to call yourself the woman champion when you've got a prostate is not banning you from a game show lol.

>>121210
>but all you are doing is helping to rob of us more agency by suggesting that everything we do is because men made it that way.

That's the human condition though. We are nothing but biological machines that react certain ways to certain stimulus. And since we live and breathe the patriarchy, truly everything we do is shaped by men.

>>121533
then according to you men cqnt but the help rape and torture us bc they also live in a patriarchal society kek

>>121534
Go ahead and explain your logic for this one. Don't worry, I'll wait.

>>121535
Have you ever shit your pants so badly that you can’t even tell they are pants anymore?

>>121536
No. I have been told that everyone shits their pants at least once as an adult but I have come to believe that it is because so many people drink that they believe it is an inevitability.
But I'm waiting for you to explain your "logic" behind your post. Why don't you focus your two brain cells on that task since it's going to take you a while to sound out the letters?

>>121537
Hey man i don’t have logic i just wanted to know abt the shitty pants

>>121535
you literally made the same argument..
>We are nothing but biological machines
are you implying only women are mindless robots and men arent or are you just retarded

>>121539
Are men not human? The answer is no, lol, but we will pretend they are capable of humanity for the sake of the argument All animals, and humans are animals, are biological machines that respond to stimuli. That's one of the reasons it is so hard to define what is life and what isn't life. If a virus and a bacteria both always produce the same output when the same input is given, why is one alive and one isn't? That's why we have the seven properties of life to define what is and isn't life. Yet even that is a human fallacy, a lie we tell ourselves in order to more easily understand and organize our universe.
So with the understanding that more simple life forms have a linear relationship between input and output, we can understand and test that more complex lifeforms also have linear relationships between input and output. But whereas it is easy to understand what a cocci bacteria will do with a certain protein, computing what a human will do in a given situation becomes much harder as the variables become much more complex.
So you look at large swaths of data and from that you make conclusions of what a human will do in a given situation. In Situation A, when placed in a patriarchy, 90% of women do action B. Yet when taken out of a patriarchy, 0% of women do action B. Does this mean that those women are unthinking? That they have no agency? And the answer is that when a machine in placed in certain situations, it pretty consistently produces certain actions. Men, also being biological machines, are the same way.

Anyone following the Antiwork dumpster fire?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yUMIFYBMnc&t=1s

>>121544
This is a male/tranny for sure. Unbearable typing style

>>121576
i saw it on reddit a couple of times but decided to not look into it because i figured it's just another psyop like most reddit front page garbage.

>>121579
b-but he said men are le bad lol

>>121580
meant for >>121578

>>121583
>Troon mod goes on a power trip and blows up a community

Many such cases

>>121582
Wtf is that hair on his shoulder supposed to be

>>119276
It's in the name. The American Civil Liberties Union will always be fighting for the civil liberty of the individual to do and say anything so long as they aren't hurting another person.

>>118708
It's disgusting how society has brainwashed this stupid cunt to think that not only is it right to lump gender expression, gender roles, and gender stereotypes into a frankenstein of a self, but that doing so is brave and lifesaving.

>>121613
A bad photoshop/filter.

>>121583
>>121577
Being too respectful of trans people's identities/fetish is one of the biggest weaknesses of the modern western left (especially online self-described """anarchists""" who I've stopped taking seriously altogether). It is a fact that many trannies, especially male ones, have additional mental illnesses like severe depression, schizophrenia and bipolarity. If they know someone is mentally unstable (which MtF trannies are practically guaranteed to be), why allow them to represent and manage your community?
This is accepting one kind of idpol to take over the movement, and I bet soon we'll see a tranny doing this kind of shit in real life and not just in a subreddit anymore because of this same blind acceptance.

Has anyone noticed how many TIMs come from well-off families but you'd never guess it based on how cringey they are? I looked up this guy I remembered and learned ​he came out as trans last year. His dad makes over $300K/year as a high-up academic administrator (way above average for where he lives). He went to an ivy league university for grad school. He's on twitter sperging about wrestling and bitching about how his girlfriend dumped him after he came out as trans. Of course, he's dropped his venmo as if he can't ask his dad for money any time.

If you're a well-off white male, often, the only 'hardship' you've ever faced has been the natural discomfort of puberty. No wonder so many of them read way too far into the unpleasantness of puberty and conclude they're actually women.

I went to Chat Avenue's lesbian and girl's chat room, and it was a huge letdown. Men in the chat labelled me a bigot, trans-phobic, and a man posing as a woman for having "delicate masculinity," and I was censored for holding views like sex is immutable, gender identity is what we used to think of as gender expression, and the essence of trans identity is being a prisoner to social constructs of gender, which I feel should be abolished.

According to a troon mod, barring men from going to a site that's supposed to be a safe place for women is "sexist" and "discriminatory" and men can stay as long as they're respectful. If a man is looking to hook up with a girl on a lesbian or girls chat, then t hey lack decency and respect for women.

>>121661
>I went to Chat Avenue's lesbian and girl's chat room, and it was a huge letdown. Men in the chat
>If a man is looking to hook up with a girl on a lesbian or girls chat
You shouldn't have had talked about your views, you should have simply shamed those moids and the mods for allowing males to be in what's supposed to be a female-only chatroom.
That would've probably made some of the women in the chat think, and maybe even possibly speak out against it themselves.

>>121618
It's impossible to be trans without infringing on others' rights.

>>121720
I’m torn between my hatred of Mormons and Trannies

So, this troon on a Discord said that we should use his name only, because no pronouns work for him. I swear to god, I feel like they have this obsession with pronouns just to stand out.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-01-27/26-year-old-who-sexually-assaulted-girl-while-underage-will-serve-two-year-term-in-juvenile-facility-judge-rules%3f_amp=true

Tl;Dr 17 year old tranny assaults a 10 year old in a women's bathroom. Tranny,now 26, will be sent to a juvenile facility for 2 years allegedly in "isolation" but probably not. He will also not have to register as a sex offender

FtMs are so retarded

>>121955
Idk how parents can let this go maybe I just don't understand since I don't have kids but the minimum I would do is molest the tranny back or at least beat it.

Ugh there's a tranny in a /vg/ community I frequent. He's such an infuriating person. Today he told he's into "ryona" which is the mental (?) abuse of women. Just fucking classic moid.

>>121975
Ryona is physical, not mental

some comments from a women's fashion subreddit, about posts from male fetish accounts. it reminded me of occasionally encountering fetishists when i was really into reselling clothing and cosplay, and how the way they would often either claim to be troons (to gain my trust) or they were so far gone in their fetish that they had actually trooned out. i hope more people can see that there's isn't that much of a difference between how "cis" men with fetishes approach these things and how tim men with fetishes approach these things.

>>121978
Well it's even more moidy then

>>121979
I have seen a bit more hope of people starting to see how crazy this whole trans shit is, even on Reddit. Though even those comments would be TWANSPHOBIIIC on some subreddits. How long until a handmaiden mod or a tranny janny boots those women from the subreddit for wrongthink?

>>118866
Adums not gonna troon out where tf are you getting that from

>>121962
I feel like we should help them. They are women and we should treat them as such. No need to bash them, we have to find ways to explain to them why they are misguided and welcome them in our community.

>>121731
Jesus fucking christ.
This guy is a sociopath. He ironically expresses the most moidish goal ever, which is obtaining the most amount of power, except he also skims on any effort to be responsible about it. He rapes people and tortures animals, probably to feel more powerful, because that’s what his whole pathetic life is about.
He’s garbage, a leech, and deserves to burn in hell.

>>120722
>it’s an ideology about supplanting power, not dismantling power
what a dumb fuck. if he wasn’t such a stupid fag he would realize his statement is totally insubstantial. there is no ideology that is solely about “dismantling power” while being unconcerned with “supplanting power”. power is dismantled when it is more desirable for another power to supplant it. power isnt dismantled in a void. how can men get away with being so stupid in public

>>121975
Shoulda replied to him with "typical degenerate male" honestly.

>>118267
Some speedrunner, 100%

>>121578
I get that a lot and I think it's because I was around male writers as a child and teenager too much. No friends in the formative years leads to weird adults, so make sure you live somewhere with other children.

>>122004
By showing them that they are not men.

>>121620
>stupid cunt
Mamma mia that's some spicy misogyny!

>don't worry, this isn't rape, i'm trans!
BONUS. Alex__Moran seems to be abolishwork's alt account.

>>122040
Exhibit A

>>122043
Exhibit: B

I was reading some comments that Doreen might kill herself from all this bullying. I wonder if she would
>>122040
TIL autists can't rape and women can't rape other women because there's no power imbalance. lmao what a fucking retard

>>122043
>using he/him at first
Ah, forgot to edit those out too? The cognitive dissonance is delicious

>>122051
Holy shit BASED

I wonder if anyone uses that in my country

>>122040
oh he's a "moran" all right…

Now, that's good reasoning.
Got this one on the "Rational"Wiki Discord chat.

>>122062
man, this is so dumb. I was gonna start going off on a rant but not even worth it, since the long and the short of it is just that these people are fucking dumb

>>122062
Personally, every person I can remember seeing shill for NFTs have been moids.
Do cis women don't exist to these people or what? Oh wait.

>>121582
it's literally the chudjack meme lol

>>118214
Accidentally ranted about trannys to my mother today. She thinks I'm a bigot and seems to hate me now. For fuck sake when will this end

>>122159
She doesn't hate me, she does think I'm a bit of a bigot though. That's because of the culture of the LGB+ community where I live, so I'm just going to give it time for her to look more into it.

Any anons have suggestions of what to send her? Or what direction to point her?
She would probably prefer statistics and she said she's open to looking into it, if anyone knows a good place to start

>>122051
giggle is good (I deleted because of scrotes a while ago but might redownload) - spinster is also good, mentioning in case any anons havent heard of it

>>122170
samefag, accidentally spoilered the pure mountain image

>>122170
I'm not sure what sources to send her, but what peaked me is thinking about what a woman is, how one can "feel" like a woman, and finally, what gives a male the right to claim he "feels" like a woman. How can an oppressor identify as a member of the group he oppresses? I concluded that any male's idea of what it feels like to be a woman must be based in misogyny and sexism. So maybe that angle would work?

>>122170
sorry it's a twitter thread so idk if she can follow along with the format but
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1480382480595230721.html
this contains some good info on the dark history of how troons (male ones) were able to gain political power

>>122195
slit your throat

As a white woman I'm happy to know that men kill themselves much more than women

>>122201
Wot does your race have to do with it?

>>121749
I do this at work with any pronoun types, or use passive voice to avoid ever using their "pronouns"

This sounds made up. I'm no expert on Greek myth but I thought Artemis was supposed to be based?

>>122292
Yes, apparently the character in the myth was called Sipriotes and Artemis turned him into a girl when he accidentally saw her naked.
This is one of the first things that come up when you search "sipriotes" on Google Images for fuck's sake why are they like this

Sage for off topic but do any of you reblog things on tumblr to make it seem like you're a tra? Every so often someone who I thought was gc will reblog or post something making fun of terfs or a picture of a trans celebrity so I was wondering if anyone does that to like throw people off the scent or if I'm actually mutuals with tras?

>>122298
no that sounds pretty suspicious, maybe an actual tra trying to "infiltrate"?

>>119092
Two minutes in paint and fixed it.

>>122292
I thought she turned him into a wild animal and he got killed by hunters. Or was that a different story?

>>122292
>forcefemmed
WHY does it ALWAYS have to come back to their fetishes??

>>122335
Yeah that was a different one

>>122335
That was Actaeon, who was a full grown man. The story in question is about Siproites, who is only mentioned by one author, in one book, for one sentence.
>The Cretan, Siproites, had also been turned into a woman for having seen Artemis bathing when out hunting.
There, that is the myth in question.

>>122340
>according to the Liberalis
What a retard, Liberalis is a person, not the book.

>>122298
no, this is a common tactic for "crypto-terfs" is to try to deflect it. my blog isn't political but i've done things like this too, i don't reblog things about "terfs" but i've reblogged things that are neutral or positive about individual transpeople. another thing is if a post i find interesting or informative includes transgender info, i'll just leave it in instead of reblogging from the source, so it'll make me look like i'm supportive.

>>122345
>mentioned by one author, in one book, for one sentence
kek so this whole "myth" these trannies are parading around is basically fanfiction-tier nonsense that was offhandedly thrown out by some moid author who probably had it as his own fetish? Sounds about right.

Oh, no please, Lord, stop this madness.
https://uk.style.yahoo.com/replacing-word-mothers-birth-givers-165037898.html

>>122005
>He rapes people
Totally true.
>tortures animals
Come on now. You're using that word too lightly here. He abused them, but he didn't torture them.

>>122201
Did an actual robot write this?

>>122298
I've heard of radfems doing this, but I've never seen it. I wouldn't rule her out, but I would proceed with caution.

>>122292
She didn't ask, she just did it. He saw her naked so she turned him into a woman.

>>122429
What's going on under that wig?

>>122433
Conehead

>>122434
>>122435
Best of both worlds?

>>122216
>>122419
It doesn't make sense because it was in response to the removed moid's reply kek.

>>122437
I wish someone would reply to his post on Twitter with that, lol

women who use this site should be in prison according to twitter troons
why are they so deranged and angry about women having places online where they can have discussions without the interference of men?

>>122560
>transphobia is tantamount to racism
They’re so tone deaf oh my god

>>119938
I am running to give you a hug anon

>>122562
>>122560

local woman jailed for bitching about men online, repeatedly posting the s slur (scrote)

>>122573
That would be me, and I won't have any regrets.

>>122457
Hope we get to meet in prison babes, let's start a girl gang!

>>118233

Moids think trannies are mentally ill for the simple reason that they can't fathom why would anyone in their right mind choose to look like an effeminate, short, scarred "guy", specially in a society as judgemental as ours.

>>122562
it's some narcissist shit. "you won't acknowledge my own authority, so I need to use some other authority to make you bend to my will if you won't acknowledge my will"

God I saw my irl friends yesterday and they are very libfemmy. I had to stop myself from rolling my eyes when one said "oh I am so glad I know I am she/her!!<3". Mind you english is not our native language and we don't have gendered pronouns. Lol.

Other one worked in the gender clinic for a while too, it was very hard to keep my mouth shut. She was the one literally recommending starting gender therapy. She said the rejection rate is about 25%.

>>122652
>worked in the gender clinic
I couldn’t be friends with someone that evil.

>>122653
She's not evil, she genuinely wants to help. The psychology major is full on WOKE here, and that's what she was taught and what her friends acted like. She is a smart person, and I do think she sees the most creepy aspects of it, but she does not use the internet that much so she doesnt see the endless girlcock memes and shit. Also she was part time helping there while working in urgent psychosis care or some shit.

Yesss it looks like tranny Lia Thomas might be kicked off the UPenn swimming team

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10465879/Will-Lia-Thomas-NCAA-contest-USA-Swimming-says-low-testosterone-needed-36-months.html

I know it's DailyMail but tldr, US Swimming decided you need 36 months of low testosterone (still dumb imo) before competing, which would kick Lia off for the rest of her college career basically.

Apparently UPenn or NCAA might sue to let Lia stay. Retarded and obvious how all they care about is money, not sportsmanship or the real women on their team who worked so hard to compete and set records.

>>122666
samefagging but have to say, quite based of Caitlyn Jenner…

>Caitlyn Jenner said that she did not support Thomas's competing in women's events.

>'I've said from the beginning, biological boys should not be playing in women's sports.'

>'We need to protect women's sports.

>'First of all, I respect her decision to live her life authentically. 100 percent.

>'But, that also comes with responsibility and some integrity. I don't know why she's doing this.'

>favourite streamer makes more or less misogynist remarks/jokes all the time
>he clearly doesn’t care about women’s rights or anything political
>ignore it because his content is otherwise excellent, and because he has a small audience
>in his newest stream he throughoutly roasts Itch.io for being ”twansphobic”
Oh god, yet another future tranny. Time to sneakily unsub.

>>122690
Why do you care? He doesn’t deserve more views.

>>122689
I wasn't even aware that there was a non-sneaky way to unsub. Is the default way to unsub for zoomers declaring loudly "I REFUSE TO ENGAGE IN THIS CONTENT ANYMORE!"?

>>122693
What else would you need it for? He’s no one famous.
>>122700
He only has a couple of subscribers. If I unsub now, he knows who it was and what for.

>>122689
you can't muster the courage to unsubscribe from a youtube channel? ngmi

Reply to the anon in /meta/ >>>5565

Troon got pissy that women are critical of them and raided the MtF thread in lolcow. Keep in mind this is an old incident that happened last year.
I got the archives but please MASSIVE trigger warning on this because it has real pictures of gore/dead women in it. I do think it's important to keep the archive around because it is a proof of how deranged troons can be. All you needed to do was be a woman and be critical of them. Here are the links to the archives:

"The event was a bunch of troons from /lgbt/ raiding the lolcow mtf thread. Though, massive trigger warning for gore and pictures of dead women.
lolcow MtF thread: https://archive.is/RKUyl / https://archive.md/JZi8p (both are archives of the same thread)
/lgbt/ threads: https://archive.md/wRURn ; https://archive.is/gOcKe

Truly an ""uwu woman"" moment from the troons, having gore at the ready on their computers."

>>122758
I knew that archiving this would be important because shit like this truly shows how pathetically male TiMs are.

>>122670
>I don't know why she's doing this.

Dunno if Jenner is just playing dumb or what but we know why Lia is doing this. It's the exhibitionism side of the AGP bullshit.

Would anyone know how I might find a sex affirmative therapist in the UK? I desperately need to find someone who will help my son out of his trans delusions as I am unable to even after many, many hours of explaining to him why it's impossible for him to become a girl.
He's not a bad kid; just autistic, stubborn and easily influenced. He spent a lot of time watching trans youtube channels and browsing reddit and I'm sure people on there told him he needed to be a girl.
I'm worried he's taking hormones at his friends house and I can't stop him visiting there when he stays with his father. I can't cope with this and I'm not sure what to do.

>>124400
For the record, I'm not in the UK or English. I'm just gc and avoiding work.

Pick up a copy of Desist, Detrans, & Detox: Getting Your Child Out of the Gender Cult by Maria Keffler. It's created by Partners for Ethical Care and they have a webpage and youtube channel.

Video about the book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwtoux5lKv0
Recs for other books from them: https://www.partnersforethicalcare.com/list-of-resources

There is a podcast, which is also posted to youtube,called Gender: A Wider Lens that is by two therapist who don't believe in transgender. One if them is Irish from Ireland. They talk about therapy with kids who have gender dysphoria and how to treat it without transing them.

They have a episode on how to find a therapist, episode 54. Episode 14 is the real ways to manage gender dysphoria. Episodes 20 adn 21 are about gender dysphoria in males. 47 is about when parents disagree.

They also have this website: Gender Exploratory Therapy Association: https://genderexploratory.com/. Gender Exploratory therapy is therapy to treat gender dysphoria with no "you really are a women/man." There are some people in the UK and Ireland on there. You can contact them and ask if they have any referrals if they are not in your area.

Marcus and Sue Evans are a couple who worked at Tavistock and left because it was taken over by the transcult. They now have a practice that treats kids with gender dysphoria without transing them. If you can't see them, they can probably give you a referral to some other gender exploratory therapists.

http://evanspsychotherapy.co.uk/gender-dysphoria/gender-dysphoria-family-consultation-service

For support for you, https://gendercriticalresources.com/Support/ - this is a public forum for parents who have trans identified kids. It has member only boards, and if you make some friends there, you can undoubtedly get invites to complete private forums/discords.

Also, have you tried mumsnet? There might be a board there for parents of dysphoric kids.

>>118232
:D they're friends

>>118246
so you haven't noticed how all the most violent men are the ones with most of their dicks cut off?
>white male
oh. okay. you do you.

>>124400
>terf mom gets a trans kid
I'd find it poetic if I wasn't sad for the child. How about you just listen to your kid, without trying to influence them in any direction? Show them you love them no matter what gender they are, promise to accompany them in the path they walk in life. If it's just a phase, they'll move out of it. If it's not, wouldn't you rather they go through it with you than alone?

>>127054
>just let your teen chop off their cock like gawd

Not like it's an irreversible life decision or something

>>127056
Are you intentionally being dishonest or do you genuinely believe that as soon as a boy says "maybe I'm a girl" they chop his dick immediately. It's the very last step (and a step that far from all trans go through) of a process that takes years. Can't you at least consider the fact that if a boy keeps saying they're a girl for literal years, maybe they actually are?

>>127059
He cannot be a girl. This is a mental disorder. You can choose to enable his delusions or not, but he is not a girl.

I'm afraid it's over for the russians

>>127070
First of all, why do you always make it sound like a dark conspiracy? Do you think some people's sole purpose in existence is to chop dicks and grow other dicks from clits or something?

I do agree that these decisions should be taken very seriously and accompanied by counseling but at the end of the day, who are we to decide for them? By the way, you mention Jazz as an example against transitioning, but, to my knowledge, she never regretted any part of her transition, no matter the setbacks.

Lastly, I'm sorry but your calling it a mental disorder is just semantics. Even if it is, there is no treatment for it. There are no drugs to make dysmorphia disappear. Conversion therapy works just as well as it does for gays, which means not at all. In that situation, forcing them to live their life based on their biological sex, seems needlessly cruel.

>>127075
Fuck off tranny

>>127076
I was wondering when this one was gonna come. Pleasantly surprised it took 3 posts though.

I don't feel like there's anyone to trust in this space. On the one hand you have crazy surgeons who are ready to cut anything off and on the other hand you have "Gender critical therapists" using their patients trauma as springboards for a career in opposition by claiming to be the "reasonable voice" for therapy as if bad therapy isn't also traumatizing long-term. So many people fail to carry the logic through. If a surgeon is going to say the solution is surgery, and an endocrinologist is going to say the solution is hormones, what is a therapist going to say the solution is? They're ALL part of the medical-industrial complex, not just the ones "on one side"

>>127075
Uhhhh, NTA. Your argument is a bit weird, like the other anon claims.

"forcing someone to live their life based on their biological sex" is "semantics" too. Almost all of it is. A lot of people want to escape certain nasty roles or expectations, etc., when in reality they can literally do whatever while identifying as he/she, it's just society is a sperg about people that stray from conventions and people WANT a sense of catharsis as-is with or without gender being a factor or identity.
The grass is greener on the other side, all that. Of course this makes people feel happy. But in the meantime, there's countless cases where a tranny becomes this neurotic mess that continuously needs outside validation and support to keep on going.
There's a lot of public figures that suffered to infinity and beyond and probably has to continue being optimistic because being honest about the whole situation would trigger a shit ton of people and remind them of the reality of the transition.
It's why a lot of trans spaces actively suppress the 1000s of stories coming out about botched surgeries, etc. Toxic positivity up the wazoo.

And judging whether or not something is wrong by whether or not someone regrets a thing is, well, narrow thinking. Much like how not all consent tells the whole story.

Also gender dysphoria is often classified as a mental disorder AND that the one real cure is transitioning by many progressives and psychologists as well.

>>127083
NTA
>A lot of people want to escape certain nasty roles or expectations, etc., when in reality they can literally do whatever while identifying as he/she, it's just society is a sperg about people that stray from conventions and people WANT a sense of catharsis as-is with or without gender being a factor or identity.
Reading this the thought crosses my mind. In relation to this concept of societal gender roles. What is the meaningful difference between a troon who "identifies" and acts out the parodied gender roles of a woman, and that of say, a man, who identifies as a man, but dresses as a woman, wants to be referred to by "she" and wants access to female only places? As far as your statement here the later is acceptable while the former isn't because he's just "defying gender roles" right?

>>127078
NTA
>It's called therapy
If therapy worked why didn't conversion therapy work for troons back in the day? Were the therapists just not trying hard enough?
>or treating the comorbidities like depression and anxiety
After a proper diagnosis yes, that's why troons had to be screened for other mental illnesses before getting the hormones back in the day.
>detransitioners are already proof of that unless you're going to say "uhh they were never really trans"
How do you categorize detransitioners in your head? Are they people that actual had a condition called "gender dysphoria" and then "got better" or are they people that just "thought" they had "gender dysphoria" and just realized that wasn't the case?

>>127108
Might be a male that thinks he's a female tbh, so it might be mansplaining.

>>118214
>terfs: abolish gender! men can wear dresses, it doesn't make them women!
<post: here is my SON wearing a dress HIS mom made
>terfs: THE TRANS LOBBY STRIKES AGAIN!!
how is anyone meant to take you seriously

>>127428
The first one is the correct one.
The idea of the threadpic is presumably that he's on the pathway to becoming trans /because/ of the fact that people treat womenhood as femininity.
But ideologically most terfs would side with the first.

What is a woman? A seemingly easy question that those who support gender ideology cannot seem to answer. When asked to define the world woman, they resort to circular reasoning such as is a woman is someone who feels like a woman and cause they feel like a woman they must be a woman. They cannot clearly define the world woman. If anyone can be a woman then the word has no meaning. Even though most women are capable of bearing children, some are postmenopausal or unable to reproduce due to a medical condition. If a man who thought of himself as a woman died and his body was discovered, it would be clear that he was a man. His self-perception would have been lost to time, but someone could tell he was a man.



Women and men differ in body mass, musculature and brain structures, among other things. Sex is inherent and cannot be changed in any way . Women and men can respond different to treatments which is why both sex's are included in clinical research. Some insist there is no biological and neurological differences in men and women. Biology play's a role in what women and find to be interesting. Women who were exposed to more testosterone in the womb are more likely to lean towards male typical hobbies. Autism is overall more common in boy's and some girl's who are autistic are believed to have been exposed to elevated levels of testosterone in the womb and so it can be challenging for them to relate to neurotypical girls. Saying gender is a social construct is like saying sexuality is a choice.


Stating biological differences between men and women is not hateful and we should not ignore biological to make a small population of people feel more at ease. Using someone's chosen pronouns and name is considered respectful. Trans people have the same rights as everyone else and should not be legally recognized as the opposite sex. What is spread about transgenderism in the mainstream media is ideological non-sense.

Some people can reap the benefits of a sex change and every grown up should be free to make their own choices given they are in the headspace to fully understand the long term impacts of their choice. Men who undergo a sex change are more likely to regret their choice and suffer suicidal thoughts and depression in the future. Some investigations on srs and hrt have indicated that they produce unfavorable outcomes. Women who undergo hrt had better outcomes, which is thought to be due to the antidepressant effects of testosterone.


If sex was not important, there would be no such thing as same sex attraction, homosexuality is defined as having sexual attraction to members of the same sex. Gay men are men who are sexually attracted to other men, likewise lesbians are women who are sexually attracted to women. Lot's of men and women with same sex attraction feel pressured into having sex with men/women of the opposite sex. It's unreasonable for someone who self-identify as a member of the opposite sex to expect others' to be more flexible with their sexuality.



Gender dysphoria is a rare medical condition that is thought to mostly impact boy's starting when they first become aware of their gender which is around two and some of these boy's outgrow their gender dysphoria when they reach adulthood and end up growing up to be homosexual men. A person with gender dysphoria has the long-lasting belief they are a member of the opposite sex. For some people, transitioning can improve their mental health but others may benefit from therapy that helps them come to terms with their sex.



In 1980, gender dysphoria was added to the DSM 3 and it was recently taken off the DSM-5. According to left-wing gender ideology a persons self perception holds more merit than their biological reality and that gender is an endless spectrum. Some who spread this nonsense argue that you don't even have to feel discomfort in your body in a relation to your sex to be transgender and so if you want to a boy then you are a boy. It's becoming alarmingly easy in some places for a person to go on HRT and get SRS. A growing number of companies are offering benefits to transgender employees.



Sports should be separated based on sex, men are physically stronger than woman and so it's unfair to allow a man to compete against women even if they've been on estrogen for two years given they have the clear advantage over women. Lot's of women are fed up with competing against men who self-identify as woman in sports and they are worried to speak up given that would mean they risk losing job opportunity's and scholarships. Women's fragile gains are being destroyed in the name of progress. It's offensive to women that the greatest women's jeopardy player is a man and the best women's college swimmer is a man.



Erasure of the word woman is becoming common place and it's not unheard of to see gender neutral replacements to words that are usually associated with womanhood. Lots of women find these words to be upsetting and degrading. Some examples include bleeders in place of menstruating woman, chest feeding instead of breast feeding and cervix havers instead of women. Even though some people may not feel at home with their sex every person who has given birth is a woman and every person who produces sperm is a male.



Laws pandering to women impact every walk of life. Trans-women convicted of raping and murdering women have been sent to women's prisons and it's unsettling to think how the justice system goes as far as to honoring the self-identity of a sick and deranged man and serving victims on a platter to him. Trans-women commit sexual crimes more than any other crime. Some parents reported that their child socially transitioned at school without them being aware and some schools allow kids to secretly behind their parents back. Kids are being indoctrinated into left wing gender ideology by public schools.


Giving hormones, sex reassignment surgery and puberty blockers to kid is child medical abuse and any health provider than gives this treatments to children should be punished by the fullest extent of the law. A child cannot consent to having his/her reproductive rights taken away and understand how these procedures can forever change the body. Research has shown that the outcomes of srs and hrt can be grim. Cutting off healthy organs when it is not medically necessary is mutilation. Interestingly, the same drug used for puberty blockers in children is used to chemically castrate sex offenders. Puberty blockers can can cause brain fog and upset tummy. It's not fully understood how it impacts brain development and bone density though it would not be shocking if their were an increase in bone cancers some day.



Teen girls are the fastest growing population of people coming out as transgender. Some parents of teen girls reported that their daughter shown no signs of discomfort when it comes to their sex growing up and enjoyed girly hobbies and these parents noticed their daughter was spending an increased amount of time on social media and watching transgender related content and hanging in groups where there are people coming out as transgender. This can be explained by social contagion.

A lesser known community is the de-trans community, these are people who came out as transgender and then de-transitioned. Some of the slang used among these groups of people is de-trans which is someone who medically detransitioned and desisted which is a person who socially transitioned and then decided to embrace their sex and so they stopped self-identifying as trans. Some people in the de-trans community reported their transgender peers turning on them, being silenced from sharing their story online cause it's seen as hurtful to transgender people and so on. Lots of de-trans/de-sisted people felt misled and brainwashed by gender ideology. Sadly, the exact number of de-transitioners is unknown though it's thought to be a small percentage of the transgender community. Some of the reasons men/women reported de-transitioning is social stigma, financial issues, finding better ways to explain what they are going through and so on. Some of the common reasons a man thought he was trapped in the wrong body included sexual abuse trauma, internalized homophobia and feeling unable to meet up the stereotype of what it mans to be a man and some of the common reasons a woman choose to transition into being a boy include internalized misogyny and internalized homophobia. Some people transitioned as a way to escape their trauma and they only ended up hurting themselves more in the long run.

>>121180
There's a reason men who are friends in my middle east hold each other's hands and it is seen as completely normal.

>>128959
My god they are so round =o

What do you think about radfem troons? Other trannies hate them for not tolerating their pornsick delusions and call them TIRFs

>>137874
I think they're pick-mes/bootlickers. There might be a few radfems who pity them but most GC people hate them and consider them the same as all troons.

>>122560
Cause troons aka deranged mutilated moids are a bunch of envious misogynists psychopaths that want to shove thenselves into females spaces don't matter what

>>118309
how is butchlesbians a handmaiden sub?

>>118235
christ. that is literally this meme

trannies are retarded

>>140855
I don't see them necro-bumping obsolete threads.

>>118235
Lmao it hurt itself in its confusion

>>118235
If she doesn't have any audio I can't tell if she's having tears of manic joy or actual regret.

>>127071
>the Ukraine
Why do old boomers always say this? It's not like people call Poland "The Poland"

I see a lot of hate for trans women on this forum, but what are the thoughts on trans men?

>>143777
This is an old thread. We're on thread #21.
Anyway, they are not men but I don't care about them as much since they can't hurt anyone but themselves.

>>143777
They are women, they need our help.

>>143777
mtf trannies are worse because they are using male strenght to infiltrate women spaces and this is unfair because men are objectively bigger and stronger than women also because they are fucking disgusting and perverted so they should go fuck themselves. Trans people belong in the streets.

>>140948
It's not wrong, and a somewhat similar dictinction exists in Russian as well.

Usually for countries you would say в России (in Russia), в Америке (in America) and so on, but for Ukraine you will also commonly see на Украине as opposed to в Украине.
Both в and на mean in/on, в is most commonly used for strictly defined spaces like cities or countries, while на is used more in the sense of "on the table", "in the West" for spaces that are conceptually more open. (It's more complicated than that irl, but I'm just someone who is learning Russian and not a native speaker.)

The name Ukraine comes from the Russian word for borderland, which is something you would use на for as it describes a broad region rather than a strictly defined space. For various reasons, it persisted in the Russian language like that.
I assume that this в/на oddity with Ukraine was simply adopted by the English language at some point. Using "the" for regions like на in Russian isn't uncommon in English, and many other languages do it too. We still say "the Ukraine" exclusively in my native language.

Some Ukrainians consider на Украине in Russian and "the Ukraine" in English offensive because it implies that Ukraine is just a region and not a real country. The Ukrainian government even made a website (and a Reddit bot… yes, really) encouraging foreigners not to say "the Ukraine".
It mostly comes down to political sperging in the end, but neither option is wrong per se.

my 10 yo sister has begun telling her friends to use "he/it" pronouns for her and she's got all these retarded hand drawn pride flags for shit like catgender hung up in her room. how do I ungroom her? its making me legitimately sick watching her fall victim to this garbage.

>>148136
Tell her shes not special for being part of this months victim parade and having to make up fake identies is just her compensating for the fact shes just a boring person. You have to sow the doubt for the bullshit fast and hard. Obliterate her ego

>>148136
Ngl >>148141 approach is most likely gonna result in her whining about how her evil transphobe sister doesn't understand her, but I agree it's the best thing you can do. She's gonna hate you for a while, but will probably thank you in the long run. If you try to reason with gendies patiently, they're just gonna think you just dont get it and they're too intellectually superior for you, a cis person, to understand the complexities of their gender identities invented on Tumblr circa 2013. Sometimes, someone (especially someone a bit older) pointing out how utterly uncool you are actually does do the trick. 10 is crazy young though. These not like other girl phases are coming faster every time.

>>148152
I had a cringe nonbinary phase in high school that definitely influenced her so I don't think she really thinks I'm "cis". in the past I had been openly supportive of trans people and haven't really indicated otherwise directly to her, so I'm worried the sudden shock of her once accepting sister turning on her in such a blunt way will either push her deeper out of spite or make her hate herself. I do think you're right that I need to be firm with it, she's seriously so brainwashed if someone doesn't do something I'm worried she's gonna 40% (I've found suicide notes before… obviously the trans stuff isn't the only thing wrong with her. I just want to help as best I can cause I love her, but damn she makes it hard sometimes).

>>148155
Hmm, yeah. If she's turning to the trans shit because she's got other problems then the tough love approach might backfire. I think the best you can do is help her out with the stuff thats making her suicidal first. It's not normal for a kid her age to be leaving out suicide notes. Well, it's not normal for anyone of course but usually kids start having depressive phases later into their teenage years. And if she's leaving the notes around like that, coupled with the catgender shit, it seems to me like a cry for help and attention. Tell her you've seen her notes, show her you care, ask her to tell you what's going on and let her know you're there for her if she ever wants to talk. If you're close to her and feel like it's safe to say without her hating you, maybe you can start to hint that you support actual trans people like ftms but not all the other nonsensical microidentities. Of course, this can also backfire into her going full tif but from what I know, the ones that aren't dysphoric almost never go through with medical transition. And "truscums" seem to be the sanest trans people. They're already, like, one Chris chan video away from peaking. They'd basically all be terfs if they weren't dysphoric.

>>148136
>>148155
I think you should show you love her first and foremost, and then lightly lay on the scrutiny, and suggestions that will lead her away from that stuff. Guide her to ask deeper questions that show why this may not be a good choice. I'm assuming shes the type of kid to look at these special genders as like, labels for her personality, and she thinks the stereotypes of being a girl or boy are too limiting for her. It's possible that's the case, along with puberty being uncomfortable for her, and it makes her insecure about expressing herself, and changing. Show her how she can be a woman while still being unique, or gender nonconforming. She may think she's too masculine, or just not aligned with her assumptions about being a woman, but she just needs to understand that it's fine to be that way. It doesn't make her a different gender, she's just a girl who is different in some ways. See why she thinks she's a different gender, like the actual reasons not just "I feel that way", and then show her she can be a girl and still feel that way. Like if she doesn't want to shave, she can be a girl and not shave. If she wants to not wear makeup, then she can do that while being a girl. If she has more masculine interests, she can have those and still be a girl. Keep in mind she may have some ideas in her head she's confused about, and insecure about sharing, so just be kind about it and not too harsh. If this persists when she's like 16-17, then start educating her on the hypocrisy of trans ideology, and show her the gruesome reality of it. Tell her about Dr. John Money and David Reimer. Tell her about AGPs, and how they view women as lesser, objects for men, and other stuff like that. Really get it in her head that men and women are different for very immutable reasons, and that they're not just arbitrary labels she can change between.

help s I'm looking for that chart about transwomen who are gay men and transwomen who are straight men.

>>119169

hahaha oh shit xD

>>148190
I've tried this with my own case of a little sister in the trans cult, tried asking her why she doesn't "feel" like a girl and kept telling her that she's not a failure of a girl just because she's not feminine. But it all falls on deaf ears because apparently getting called a girl doesn't "feel" right and that makes you a true and honest man. Trying to reason with why she feels that way just ends up in looping answers of "because I do" "because I'm not a girl" (?) "because I'm a man duh"

Good luck, maybe it'll be different with your sister, she was much younger than mine, just be prepared for circular non-logic when feelings are used to determine actual reality instead of logic

>>127071
because it used to be a region of Russia a billion years ago, rather than a country