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>>2686
>Strangely though this is considered no concern at all.
Why would it be a concern?
>So how do we figure out any of these big questions?
>We may decide it is simply out of our hands and consider the goal a futile endeavour but there very well could be another system of thought yet to be discovered that will give us the answers.
The system of thought you are looking for is faith and intuition based.
<but that's not reasonable or falsifiable!
You're the one making the assertion that reason can't explore these topics, by definition, this must mean the actual way to answer these questions must be unreasonable. If they weren't, they would be reasonable, and thus based in reason.
>Secular society has rebranded religion and fails to see it: this is certain.
Secular society has not rebranded religion, it never fully escaped the religious connotations that contained it. Take a look at the average atheists understanding of morality and you'll find it's either repackaged Christianity or maybe Buddhism if you're in the East. The only people who believe science replaced religion are the same brainlets who don't understand how epistemological philosophy works. People don't worship science these days the same way they worship the church.

>>2689
It does seem to be a waste of time to even bother trying to find out unless it brings a distraction and is a way to cope since that is the only reason we do anything at all.
Some things may truly be unknowable whethere we like it or not…

>>2690
>Why would it be a concern?
It is a concern because we are told by conventional authorities we can discover the truth by using science when this is not the case for all things as I mentioned.
I understand that even suggesting science may not provide answers results in a kneejerk reaction and has pejorative connotations that someone is stuck in the past controlled by mystic thinking.
The global consciousness for the most part is like a zoomer rebelling against the boomers.
>The system of thought you are looking for is faith and intuition based.
I did not mention theology yet this has the same problems as I mentioned already regaridng philosophy since it really is one in the same in many ways.

Why must the only way to explain that which cannot be explained using reason alone be theistic theories?
There could be an alternative system of thought as I mentioned yet to claim it is provable is unknown.

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>>2691
>It is a concern because we are told by conventional authorities we can discover the truth by using science when this is not the case for all things as I mentioned.
1. Why do you care what conventional authorities think?
2. Even if you did care about what conventional authorities think, those same conventional authorities will, for the most part, never claim that science can give you those answers. See vid related at the 14:53 minute mark. Feynman being an incredibly noteworthy individual in Quantum Mechanics, breaks down why reasoning doesn't present new presmises, it can only test existing ones against each other. Welcome to fundamental epistemology.

Fuck, it requires a leap of faith to even believe other minds exist. Go read a critique of pure reason by the Kant goblin. Reasoning can not take anything A-priori which is what you are looking for.
>Why must the only way to explain that which cannot be explained using reason alone be theistic theories?
Because you are unable to see the forest for the trees. Theological theory is the end result of a different thought system, not the thought system in and of itself. Your argument is tantamount to saying the Theory of Relativity encapsulates all of reasoning as opposed to being a result from it.
>There could be an alternative system of thought as I mentioned yet to claim it is provable is unknown.
It's contradictory on a epistemological to derive a rational system to a non-rational system as they have a-priori standards for evidence and abstraction. If you just want to argue that something exists outside of reason (outside of observation or experience), then that already exists. I believe Kant would call it "Judgement", others would call it "Faith". It can not prove anything because it does not prove things in the way reasoning does, because by it's nature it is irrational. To want a system that can prove things, but is itself not rational, thus you are requesting something contradictory. Something that is not rational, but follows rational rules.

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>>2692
Yes you make some good points and essentially it leaves everything uncertain.
I am familiar with Kant.
bah I know a lot of people are aware of these limitations but have found in personal experience they are not.
Thanks for author recommendation may be good to read something other than pessimistic stuff for a change.
le brainfog hope my reply does not seem rude for being rather limited bahh

Thinking of how large the universe is and how it may be infinite and thinking of the nature of time scares the shit out of me

I’ve never had any experiences with psychics but my friend would religiously go to one. She would always call her during exam weeks to ask what she would get on exams and according to her, the psychic was always spot on. Anyway last semester her psychic told her she would get a grade on an exam that would give her an A (93 for our class) but she got a C on the exam which tugged her final grade down to a B and she almost had a breakdown. I don’t know if she’ll continue contacting the psychic, she’s a very consistent person so I can see her going back in the future.

>>1317
I went to a palm reader, but I suppose it isn't the same thing. Regardless, it was a waste of money. The woman was picking up on things I said and telling them back to me in a slightly different way, as if she had figured it out herself. She would pick up clues to my life and run with them. I honestly believe she wasn't so much a palm reader as she was a people reader.

It's interesting. She thought that I was intelligent and on my way to success due to the fact that I was dressed very nicely and that I was in college, but at the time I'd been failing every course and often wore the same clothes every single day beyond that particular day.

>>1317
This sounds made-up

Most of them are scammers so no

Most are scammers but some may be real. I wouldn't doubt if there is some spiritual world that you could tap into it with enough focus

telepathy is real, vibes are real, you can literally feel it. lets stop pretending

Do you think this was faked or is it real? I'm somewhat conflicted, have any of you tried it for yourself?

This is more adjacent to the thread topic but any thoughts on this neuroscientist who's talking about communicating with the afterlife?

Apparently Diane Hennacy Powell who helped with it is an anti vaxxer. I think euphoric atheists on skeptic.org are still cringe as fuck though

Apparently Diane Hennacy Powell is rumored to be an anti vaxxer. I think euphoric atheists on skeptic.org are still cringe as fuck though

>>10910
I think aliens are probably real somewhere out there, whether or not they’ve been to Earth is a completely different story. There may be aliens in the water but I saw the Blaire White video about aliens where it was mentioned it could just be that humans aren’t the only evolved species on Earth and I think there’s a good chance of that being the truth. I think NHI/Non Human Intelligence is a better term than aliens

Great thread, interesting topic. The UFO community is basically a fandom anyway.

>>10910
Are you talking about this thread? Underwater alien base?
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34629564/
I think it was great and believable.

Yes. Universe is HUGEEEEEEE why would we be alone here?

I've read lots of conspiracies on them, from Starseeds, to Prison Planet stuff, to psychedelic encounters and DMT beings to abduction reports. The Roswell Alien Interview where Matilda o'donnell macelroy claimed to telepathically communicate with an alien named Ailr that was published by Lawrence R Spencer in 1947 is an interesting read. It was popular in Gnostic/Prison Planet circles for mentioning Samsara and Earth being where souls who got extremely bad Karma in past lives are reincarnated, there is some stuff about being infinitely recycled too. Apparently Matilda died shortly after she sent the author this. It may have been faked as the author is rumored to be part of Scientology but it's a chicken or the egg thing where he may have joined Scientology as it seemed to be the closest to truth or he possibly wrote this to help Scientology get its start. It's also suspected to be Scientology propaganda by using terms like "immortal spiritual beings/eternal spiritual beings" to describe humans as beings named IS-BE. This does cause suspicion from some that Scientology does seem to be "the elite" in one way or another. People on Reddit mentioned having similar encounters with gray aliens or mentioning that they were told the name of the book telepathically. There are some other interesting books of a similar nature by people like Karla Turner and there's others like Phil Schneider who was possibly killed for knowing too much. Don't know if I believe it but it does seem possible

Interesting Reddit posts
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/14s2zlr/matilda_odonnell_macelroy_1947_roswell_interview/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/xk4svt/alien_interview_lawrence_r_spencer_anyone_read/
https://www.reddit.com/r/InterdimensionalNHI/comments/1dv7onc/multiple_nonhuman_entities_have_told_humans_that/
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This channel called Area 52 made some interesting videos about it

>>11806
Do not use Ouja boards at all to contact. My mentor is a medium and a lot of demons feed off your attention and have you guessing if you're searching for a family member. I know you want to contact spirits you DON'T know but advise please do not use Ouija!

I've had issues for years dealing with terrible paranormal activity both physically to my body & objects because I was stupid and had a sigil necklace as decoration above my bed. Removed it and although I do not have it often, I've been to a cemetary recently with some friends to kinda troll around and the same spirit that was latched onto me was the same one who was hurting me, I did get a lot of questions answered through those pendents (the ones you dangle from your hand), it was a cool experience though because the spirit attached to me is powerful it managed to fling my vape off my hand which was flat. Made me feel like I had telekinesis lmaooooo. Best advice is to use those pendent things because they are more safe. And probably go to a place that has a lot of spirit activity like abandoned buildings or cemeteries :)

>>11811
To add onto this, if you do go to abandoned buildings make sure you are safe incase of people coming in that have bad intentions. As well also you might find out that you have a passed on family member with you, if you start feeling that theres another energy in the room that isnt just you or others, then it's a family member. If at some point you feel really negative it's a spirit you don't know and potentially a bad one

It could help if you go to a place that was meaningful to them while they were alive

I hope this is relevant I don't know where else to ask… Will ghosts just float through space after the sun engulfs the earth? I mean, if there's life after death in that sense I assume it's eternal right? And ghosts are commonly believed to haunt certain places, so what happens when those places are gone? I mean the sun will engulf the earth eventually so will we all float through space as ghosts or what? Go to another planet? Won't it be far away? I would love answers from people who believe in them

>>11886
Most people who believe in ghosts believe there's a spiritual world they can go to when they want so I guess ghosts just hang there once the planet is fried. Some ghost believers also believe in reincarnation and believe you can go be reborn on other planets if you'd like. Maybe time works differently than we think and the planet isn't ever truly "destroyed" at least in the way we think. Thinking about it gives me anxiety though since it makes me wonder if anything we do on Earth matters since the cycle may just repeat again the exact same way

>>11671
I hate furries and know they groom the shit out of kids, but cub is the furry equivalent of loli/shota. I've not seen furries refer to minors in the fandom as cubs, I think that would be too on-the-nose creepy even for them.

>>11671
>>11673
>often pedophiles
That's any moid group tbh, not exclusive to furries.
I've always found moeblob pedos to be more numerous than anthro cub pedos, but that's probably because I'm in more anime spaces than furry spaces.
Idk about furries who are into actual animal depictions or animal-like pokemon though. I'd imagine those to be worse by default.

>>10117
>>11633
im not gonna lie this is amazing and genuinely the type of art that i aspire to create. the artist is obviously skilled and chooses to create in such a transgressive art style willingly.
>I need to know what happened to this person so they feel compelled to create such genuinely unsettling art
i draw simmilar art and to me it was life-long isolation. people treated me like filth my whole life so i began rejecting societys standarts for whats appropriate, and that included its standarts for what is "good" art. id post a few of my own pieecs but im skittish and dont wanna hijack the thread

>>11726
This is interesting. I made my favorite art back when I was crushingly lonely. I wouldn’t create a lot (depression) but I would have spurts where I couldn’t stop, and I made interesting stuff.
I don’t believe depression can make you a good artist, but it’s naive to say some people don’t find inspiration in it. If you have that uncontrollable drive to create art, it will come out in that. I did AP art with two other people. One of them was obviously mentally struggling (I picked her up when she ran away after a suicide attempt kind of struggling), but she never thought about her pain and so I don’t think she could conceptualize it enough to put it into art. The other just was an uber normie who couldn’t accept she was a normie, so tried to be edgy instead of just being herself. She made her entire portfolio about surface level pinterest stuff (like literally stole the ideas from pinterest). Mine was on isolation. IK I’m biased but the mentally ill girl and I’s portfolios were a lot more interesting … and I believe this is simply because we’d thought & experienced emotions in a different way. Sigh. I don’t want to believe depression makes better art .. but it can absolutely have an influence if you know how to wield it. There’s a reason all the best creative geniuses are crazy.

>>11827
this response is late as fuck so you probbaly wont see it but ill speak my mind anyway
>I would have spurts where I couldn’t stop, and I made interesting stuff.
same. it almost feels like a compulsion. sometimes i have all of those feelings bubbling inside of me and the only thing that helps is making art
>I don’t believe depression can make you a good artist, but it’s naive to say some people don’t find inspiration in it
ngl i think that you can only be a good artist if youre mentally ill. i think that art is always a form of escapism from a shitty life, and most mentally ill people have a shitty life by default, so they (we) are more prone to be the creative types. its not that art brings misety its that art is created out of misery. i genuinely have never met an interesting artist who wasnt mentally ill to some degree
>I don’t want to believe depression makes better art .. but it can absolutely have an influence if you know how to wield it
i agree, tho i dont have depression (i think?) but i suffer from a plethora of other stuff and being like that mentally puts you onto the edges of society and kind of opens your mind in a way. like it makes you find beauty/comfort in unusual things and thats what makes people who are fucked in the head interesting artists.

You feel guilty for giving him courage?

Nona you are cute as fuck. Don't feel guilty. He likes you.

>>11820
teach me your ways

I think ur super cool 4 this tbh…if u believe in that sort of thing it will come true…It's all about manifestation

>>9964
All teachings in the Christian church tradition (circumcision, crucifying the flesh, patience and love for the young) are taught to keep risk-taking and impulsive masculine vocation from reigning supreme– The time wherein the Antichrist will Arise. Paul's hermeneutics on women are the inverse of this, and teach women how to be faithful maintainers & wives in their Earthly dwelling.

>>9964
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

The Church is made for Man, not Man for the church. The Church maintains Man. The Church is a woman. Christ is her bridegroom.

>>9965
>I don't know if I am justified in saying this, and it might sound a bit goofy, but I think that males are spiritually constipated, if not incapable of it altogether.

I think this sounds entirely plausible to me. Could you elaborate on what you mean by spiritually constipated? I often see an almost irrational, faith-based reluctance to engage seriously in spiritual pursuits (and by that I don't mean mechanistic religious rituals but stuff like meditation, for instance). They also seem to lack a kind of sensitivity to the sorts of experiences that spark curiosity and commitment to these pursuits in the first place - like I've never met a man who took a serious interest in just walking in nature or appreciating beauty for its own sake. I wonder to what extent they spend their time absorbed in their own delusional thoughts, rather than paying attention to the world, relative to women.

>>9977
I'd interpret to mean someone who's spirituality is only a tradition, just repeating whatever authoritative figures tell them to believe without any personal, subjective input.

Moids can feel everything we do, they just aren't likely to express feelings verbally

Same reason as women being expected to cook but men are well-paid chefs

I have a few good ones too
>a dude whos 20 and in 11th grade
>a dude who left italy at 18 with 20€ and was homeless for like 3 years
>a girl whos addicted to ecstasy at 16
All i could think of atm

A fujoshi poly "he/him" who makes zero attempts to try to pass off as a man even a little bit. I think the poly partners might also be girls pretending to be boys but I haven't met them and the photos I've seen of them are too androgynous to really tell.

Honestly I've always been a social butterfly, and had never judged anyone until I started really observing their attitudes to me and realized they were abusing my kindness and wealth. As I've aged I've learnt that people I keep close should be considered sacred and have friends for surface level and my true friends below surface. Overtime I've learnt to remove a lot of people, and it feels easy because I take principles to heart now. Some of the people I've removed from my life which I am VALID to doing was,

- I befriended a girl who bullied me throughout highschool whom deteriorated my mental health, JUST to get her to stop bullying me. I knew my priorities and got rid of her on everything after highschool, she would belittle me even during friendship
- I met a girl from Discord which was in my town, she ended up dating my ex from the same year we broke up, and she still thinks she's in the right! She has even attempted to message my boyfriend calling me egotistical and just downright rude things.
- A guy I was friends with was so obsessed with this girl, he cheated on her with my friend and hid it from her until christmas day, I had to break the news unfortunately as he had all of us thinking he came clean to her and she forgave him. He ended up saying he was sexually assaulted & blamed me for it even though I wasn't even present and warned him not to have sex as he told me he broke up with her the same day for his own peace of mind.
- Befriended this trans guy, they detransitioned and turned completely into a bitch. I made music and when they detransitioned they turned into a massive hater and said really rude remarks to me & my music saying it was going no where, even flat out ignoring me if I wasn't just the only person with her, and making me hold all her things for her because she wanted to walk with nothing on her lmao… She also brought people inside my house which I consider sacred also and warned her NOT to bring people to my house I do not know as I have VERY valuable things there.
- Removed a guy off everything because he threw glass bottles outside my home during a Halloween party I hosted, making me potentially face a fine all just because he got his ego broken as my friend called him out for being a total jerk to myself and other people simply enjoying their time talking…

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weirdest one was this girl i was friends with for a year. i only ever tolerated her weird behavior because i had no friends at the time.

>would tell everybody we were dating (we weren't)
>constantly sexually harassed and groped me
>would force me to read her weird gay smut fanfiction
>used her rose toy at a sleepover when she thought i was asleep, multiple times
>was a peeping tom, looked at me while i was showering
>an overall pervert

aside from that; i had

>kid who tried to pay a chick money for nudes, got rejected, and later sent me a manifesto threatening to blow up his school and kill the girl
>girl who would listen to alpha werewolf smut audiobooks in class
>guy who looked like dylan klebold who showed people gore and the blippy harlem shake in school
>guy who wore a fedora and a full fit of cabaret-esque temu clothes everyday
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>>11850
is it bad i want a friend like the first one. SO bad

>>10032
Why is this topic banned on 4chan?

>>10574
You can actually get banned on 4chan?

>>10032
smells like a psyop

>>10032
schizo content

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