>>318589
So my view is that I value sentience for all beings that have at one point reached sentience.

So the potential for sentience for all beings that have at one point reached sentience, this is why I do not think most cases of abortions are ethical, or should be legal. This is also why my view doesn't lead me into sperm rights reductios, egg rights reductios, or killing people while they're in comas. I do think there's a difference between…

I do think my ethical, at least ethically, I think there's a difference maybe, sorry, legally, there should be a difference between the case of rape and the case of non-rape. We could go into the symmetry breakers for that. There may or may not be a difference ethically.

Well, there probably is, but I still think it probably would be unethical. So what I think you would want is a symmetry breaker for the rape case and the non-rape case. Is that correct?

[S2]

Yeah, sure. And when you say potential for sentience, so if a fetus hasn't… Okay, so wait, for potential sentience, it would have to have already had sentience?

No, no.

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>>318590
[S2]
Okay, cool. So like you don't have a strong opinion either way in a moral context, but in a legal context, you think you should be allowed to murder the person who's hooked up to you, assuming you were forced into that position?

[S1]
Yeah, so in the moral context, so I'd have to think about it more. But in the moral context, if I imagine myself waking up, I can imagine myself waking up and I'm hooked up to you. And the question is, do I, you know, do I kill you?

Do I kill you? And would it be wrong rather? Would it be wrong if I were to kill you if someone else made you dependent on me?

I would probably have to think more about that. Regardless of what my view is morally, I think the case for legality is a clear symmetry breaker. Morally, it's still like part of me still, it would seem to be wrong for me to do that morally.

So I'd have to think about that more clearly. But I could take the view that either way though, I could understand if someone were to bring the argument that it would still be a symmetry breaker morally. Someone can say, okay, well, it's not morally wrong in the case of rape because you're not the person who forced this other being to be dependent on you in the first place.

Like I would accept that. I would understand that. There's no inconsistency.

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>>318591
[S2]
Okay. Let's see. You know what?

The only thing I can really think of right now that I'm gonna go with is, I don't really give a fuck about a four, five month old fetus. Okay. So, like we're, okay.

So, like, even if we concede that like a four or five month old fetus is sentient, I don't know if you wanted to go over some of the research on that.

[S1]
Yeah, we can. But I'd let you, I want you to finish your point.

[S2]
Yeah, sure. Yeah, even if they're like, let's just say sentience occurs at any time. I don't give a fucking shit.

It's just such a small insignificant being that is living rent-free in my body and through, I don't know, just normal sort of daily activities that, you know, people enjoy and do. That being was created. It's like comparing like consensual sex to, I don't know, you poisoning someone.
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>>318592
[S1]
Yeah, in any other context, aside from being inside the body. In any other.

[S2]
Well, yeah, I mean, like if somebody has some sort of really bad head injury and they're in a coma and they're like level of sentience is lower than if they were, they didn't have the brain injury, but they're going to heal from that and be conscious.

[S1]
They did in both cases. So in both cases, they have the brain injury and they both have a very low level of sentience, but one individual will recover when the other individual won't. One individual will have or will have a very high probability of developing future sentience in the future.

The other individual won't. Do they have the same value to you?

[S2]
No, like we're talking about like just a normal person, right? OK, well, yeah, then the person who's going to have future sentience is going to have more value.

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Full debate showing ABORTION IS MURDER HERE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkH3vrevU9o

Does anyone get the feeling that the Uniparty has been bought off by the elites?

i like to browse 39chan. it's an image board dedicated to vocaloid/vocal synthesis in general. that, and this site are the only image boards i use

Diochan and Vecchiochan for the itanons

I'm just tired of imageboards.
I feel like I've been aged out.

No one under 45 years old will ever know what freedom was and almost everyone under 55 will live to see the end of the USA.

>>229976
Does this mean that your husband will lose intrest once you hit 30? Wtf is the point of getting married then?

>>318565
being a short man has to be worse because you have no permission to be someone, be a friend, be part of a community, be anyone but the loser creep in which society sees in you. at 50 y/o as a woman, even if you havent found prince charming, there's the wide range of possibilites to make friends and be part of community. plus there's still the 40-50 club where people are moving out of long-term relationships.
>insert used up moids are disgusting
you dont have to be into old moids. but i still i dont believe the future is as bleak at 50 as anons make it out to be here.

>>318571
I think you are right. Every decade, the quality of social interaction goes down. It's better to secure a safe circle when you can meet the best people.

I'm 18 and I've always been disgusted by older men

>>318582
a thread died for this

Quite cheap, but I graduated with a mostly useless degree way back

Filled with indians who use student visas to get inside EU.

You can't find a job if you don't have one because they give those job to illegals.
You can't find one if you do have an education because the job market is full.

>>318574
Cheap, but you won't be able to get a job due to immigrants

>people currently too obsessed with being seen as cringe

99% are, they just don't know it.

>>318547
The internet is dead. When you go to one of the main site, like X or Tiktok, what you see have been tailored for you by a machine. The content might be old or even generated by a machine. No one else see what you see and it's hard to even reach a real human.
Personas controled by a computer were already a common thing in 2010. Elon changed his mind about buying Twitter when he understood how few of it is actual people.

The internet is fake and you can't even talk to someone anymore.

Does anyone here likes birdwatching?

>>289448
OpenSUSE.
+ Well supported, well maintained, large corporate base - you don't want to start out on a distro that isn't used by professionals in the workplace, and SUSE is the oldest Linux corporation in the world.
+ YAST is the closest you're going to get to an equivalent to Mac OS Preferences or the Windows Control Center in a graphical Linux environment, and it runs and can be used to manage your software in text mode through a terminal/TTY login in the event that something goes catastrophically wrong with the graphics environment without requiring you to learn every name for every controls command or kernel module. So if you can only start in textonly safemode and need to connect to the internet you can just enter yast, follow a few simple menus to get to networking controls, and enable networking in order to download whatever is necessary to fix the system.
+ easy install
+ Lizard mascot
+ RPMs
+ huge library of games in repo - people use the suse build services even if they don't use sue itself.
+ an officially supported distro for NVIDIA and other large manufacturers who make Linux drivers.
+ an actually useful wiki that describes problems that real people have in real life with real examples and solutions.
+ officially supports an ARM/embedded variant, will not die if/when x86 desktop loses ground to newer or different technology.

Negatives:
- German. (This used to make the distro nearly unusable due to their Erlangen.DE repo servers lacking a North American mirror–they have mirrors now and had them for years but the reputation is still impacted).
- Poor audio support on ARM devices, if you're running a raspberry pi just use raspian.
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>>301194
cute hobby

Bumping this for Bechdel justice

I know this is the lamest shit to post but, has anyone here actually even read Dykes to Watch Out For?

Moid hands typed this post. You always hear them complaining about zoomer ageing when it's a woman while both millennial and zoomer men got bald at 23.

>>314035
She probably got Botox and face lifts and stuff. Most famous women only get those as they age so when they get them young it actually ages them. Plastic surgery is bleak and horrifying

>>314148
I laughed when I first read this, I'm sorry

>>314035
Its the make up. She is actually prettier without it.
Anyway her music is shite.

I prefer Hayley Williams and Paramore.

Maybe because you use subpar celebrities who had work done as your examples?
Most other gen z women I met look their age or younger

>>314148
lol

>>316777
Me at 22 💔

>>316777
>>318426
youre on your fucking way

>>316777
So you lived through the peak time to exist and now feel like you're entitled to everythiing? because that's what being a boomer is like

I wonder what proportion of boomer meme is fueled by organic, juvenile rebelliousness and how much of it is an attempt to manufacture a conflict between groups of people, to yet again distract masses from sensitive issues. Boomer meme doesn't even make sense in context of my country, but despite that some people here had allowed it to impact their worldview.